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23 Jan 2013, 6:39 am

MjrMajorMajor wrote:

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The bear has aspergers, he can't dance.

Awkwardly flailing is acceptable.

Who says my flailing is awkward?

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23 Jan 2013, 6:45 am

whirlingmind wrote:

Stoek wrote:

MjrMajorMajor wrote:

Stoek wrote:

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Stoek wrote:

Why is it, that alex's video's seem to have a near opposite direction than almost 95 percent of threads on this site?

Lol maybe just maybe he might be trying to make a difference.

I think that' s a good point, but in doing so he' s positioning himself outside the rough and tumble. If you are presenting yourself as a guide or a figurehead, then a certain reserve has to be maintained to uphold that authority. Every poster shouldn't be held to those standards and it would be unrealistic to expect them to.

Agreed.

Again I don't think people should be afraid to say things, I've made many a post that are quite negative. Including ones about a close friends suicide.

I simply think they belong in the haven, or in other sub forms,

When the main channel for discussion is tilted in such an opposed direction to alex's intentions it really shows a problem.

This site is suppose to be a beacon for us.

So basically, let me summarise your complaint. This whole thread has been devoted to you being unhappy with negative posts being on the wrong sub-forum.

If that's all that's bothering you, why don't you PM moderators every time you see a thread that has been posted in general that should be in haven.

Note that these are rhetorical questions.

If you really believe that Aspies are illogical enough not to both look in the correct sub-forums for what they seek and not calculate for themselves that posts are a bit randomly placed at times, you are doing them a disservice.

Also, I'd rather a person posted hundreds of negative posts anywhere they liked on WP if it prevented them committing suicide.

Support is one of the main aims of the site.

it was pointed out that people posting in the Haven didn't get many replies so maybe it's for this very reason that people are more likely to post on the General Autism forum ie they know there's more likelihood of a reply on there.

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23 Jan 2013, 7:12 am

Good point. In the grand scheme of things, who knows the state of mind of any poster and if they are trying to reach out to people, even if they don't appear suicidal or desperate from their post it doesn't mean they are not, then why complain about it?

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23 Jan 2013, 7:17 am

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This relentless insistence on positivity is very dangerous in my opinion - it's what can lead people to suicide as they feel they can't put on a positive act any more and their friends often aren't there to provide any support as they will often be of this 'must be positive at all times' mindset and won't relate to a person who is unhappy.

People seem to back away when a person has depression and that's the worst thing you can do as it's when a person needs support the most!

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23 Jan 2013, 7:54 am

humor the OP if you find his statements to be offensive. there really is no further point of serious discussion with him, as he has stated he is only interested in [what he considers to be] positive posts [perhaps akin to horatio alger].

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23 Jan 2013, 8:26 am

@ nessa – there is a clear distinction between someone making a negative post in a new thread to the negative burning of others threads that occurs here. One fits into the term “support” the other quite clearly does not.

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23 Jan 2013, 8:31 am

As has already been pointed out, numerous times - when you see something which you feel to be inappropriate, report it to a moderator.

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23 Jan 2013, 8:35 am

Ive seen something from you

I'm thinking

"we have powers mwahahahaha"

I've ZERO faith in the mods here - admittedly based on a small sample of 2

How does a person become one please?

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23 Jan 2013, 8:38 am

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I haven't said anything particularly negative though

In fact I'm arguing for more tolerance of negative posts as this supports people who are depressed

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23 Jan 2013, 8:41 am

answeraspergers wrote:

Agreed... I don't think that anyone here minds posts asking for support or help. It's just the countless responses people make that seem to be stuck in a negative mindset.

I'm just bothered by those people who constantly try to bring others down who try to look on the bright side with their "logical" complaints of how we can't change our situation, NTs suck, being positive is stupid, etc.

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23 Jan 2013, 8:41 am

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I haven't said anything particularly negative though

I was not actually thinking of you to be honest.

I see you point about that but i do make the above distinction.

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23 Jan 2013, 8:42 am

Quote:

to be brutally honest.

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honesty is never brutal.
"brutal" is to withhold elements of honesty from those who do not know whether they can believe you when they need you

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23 Jan 2013, 8:45 am

deltafunction wrote:

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Each person is going to have different ways of coping with their Aspergers/ASD though - so in my opinion it's good for a person to hear about a variety of coping methods and then be able to choose the one that suits them best

You seem to be saying that relentless positivity is the way to go but in my opinion this does not work for everyone - it certainly doesn't work for me. Black humour and cynicism has kept me alive.

There's an obvious point I could make about the OP on this very matter but I won't because it might offend him.

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23 Jan 2013, 8:46 am

b9 wrote:

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to be brutally honest.

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honesty is never brutal.
"brutal" is to withhold elements of honesty from those who do not know.

I could say something honest on this thread and it would be taken as brutal, believe me!

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23 Jan 2013, 8:46 am

answeraspergers wrote:

Ive seen something from you

I'm thinking

"we have powers mwahahahaha"

I've ZERO faith in the mods here.

How does a person become one please?

you think something like that.... from seeing.... CORNFLAKE'S posts?

that's such an odd thing to say.

we all have different personalities but we keep each other in check to make sure we don't become power mad or whatever. and alex also corrects us from time to time. but Cornflake... he's about the kindest and most gentle moderator that a board could imagine up!! !

there are other moderators, so you can always speak to a different one if you want though. they are listed here:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5043493.html#5043493

this thread should NOT devolve into a discussion of moderation, as that is severely off-topic. you know the procedures, you know where to find the mods, enough is enough.

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23 Jan 2013, 8:47 am

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Also, I'd be interested to see an example of a thread where this bringing others down behaviour is occurring

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