So I posted in the infamous AS partners forum for NT's...

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09 Feb 2015, 10:53 am

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I was also talking about 2 threads here on WP. Unless you link me to an example, then I don't know what you're talking about. Those were the only 2 threads in this particular sub forum that was talking about NT's, at least on the first page. There's no a third one from 2012 that was necroed recently but that one is talking about whether how drugs and alcohol affect aspies and NT's differently. I don't get it, if this attitude towards NT's is so pervasive, then I don't understand why you can't show me a specific example of a post that shows it.

Edit to add. I only know of one person who said bizarre things about NT's (recently at least) and that was in another thread, also about the ASPartners forum about 3 months ago.


I'm over it. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=152870
Go nuts.



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09 Feb 2015, 1:34 pm

I think this very thread has examples of calling people Nazis who have legitimate complaints about their partners. Goosestepping, eugenics??? C'mon. I've also seen plenty of individuals in threads call NTs stupid or worse. You are choosing not to see this, Jono.

BTW- no one has a RIGHT to a relationship. That implies that someone is obliged to be in a relationship with you. No one is hindering your freedom to pursue one.



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09 Feb 2015, 2:22 pm

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Goosestepping, eugenics???

We were just joshing there. I don't expect anybody here really thinks AS Partners are that bad. Neither is it meant as a caricature to blow raspberries at NTs as a group, just to that particular group. It's kind of childish of me, but they've been damning us much more heavily since long before this thread began, and they're still at it. I get that they need to vent, but we have a right to venting too, and it would be nice if they would be content with a little, as we are.



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09 Feb 2015, 3:47 pm

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Goosestepping, eugenics???

We were just joshing there. I don't expect anybody here really thinks AS Partners are that bad. Neither is it meant as a caricature to blow raspberries at NTs as a group, just to that particular group. It's kind of childish of me, but they've been damning us much more heavily since long before this thread began, and they're still at it. I get that they need to vent, but we have a right to venting too, and it would be nice if they would be content with a little, as we are.


I remember when the news of the Sandy Hook massacre broke out a while back.. You should have seen what was posted on AS Partners at the time. It was truly appalling and disgusting. There is a difference between venting and letting out frustrations that have built up over time and using us ( the autistic community) as scapegoats for their bad experiences with their aspie partners. I remember earlier in this thread someone posted a mod post from that forum and it said something along the lines of : "look at them, making us all out to be evil.. I tried so hard for my Ash [I assume that was his name] but yet the selfish man still thinks I am evil"

Well, firstly.. It is incredibly unfortunate that this woman's relationship broke down due to many problems that occurred, that could have possibly been either attributed to Ash's Aspergers or maybe some external factors that may have had nothing to do with the Aspergers, that lead to lack of communication etc. And I sympathise with her emotional pain, dealing with something like that must be very difficult. However one thing that needs to be said, is that the entire autistic community IS NOT ASH (I do apologise if I come off as insensitive or too harsh, that is not my intention at all.. I am not good with words. :cry:)

I will just leave this quote here, because it explains what I am trying to say, a whole lot better than I can:

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"If you meet somebody with Asperger’s, you’ve only met one person with Asperger’s. … Asperger’s is a blip on the far-reaching autism spectrum and no two cases are the same. Just as no ‘typical’ person deserves to be tar-brushed with the evil acts of another, Aspies don’t deserve the bad press they’re getting."


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09 Feb 2015, 5:09 pm

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BTW- no one has a RIGHT to a relationship. That implies that someone is obliged to be in a relationship with you. No one is hindering your freedom to pursue one.


True! We're not entitled to a certain type of relationship either, right? Which means you're not owed any birthday presents or valentine's day presents right? If none of us are not entitled to anything can we have some consistency on your part as well?



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09 Feb 2015, 5:20 pm

I read an argument in an article that it is less bad to make fun of skinny people for being skinny than fat people for being fat, because skinny is closer to the current society ideal, but I don't buy into the idea that it is less bad to make fun of skinny people for being skinny than fat people for being fat.


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09 Feb 2015, 6:19 pm

ASPartners negatively stereotypes a minority group of people, then encourages others to disassociate themselves from those people based on that stereotype.
Remember that the Nazi party didn't begin with concentration camps and gas chambers. They started with propaganda.



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09 Feb 2015, 6:23 pm

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ASPartners negatively stereotypes a minority group of people, then encourages others to disassociate themselves from those people based on that stereotype.
Remember that the Nazi party didn't begin with concentration camps and gas chambers. They started with propaganda.


You got it Mon'Amie. It starts with propaganda. Even some of the members themselves were afraid of it becoming a hate group. So, should they be reported to hate watch or not?

If you want here is some Nazi propaganda posters. http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/posters2.htm



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09 Feb 2015, 6:44 pm

I agree that no-one has a right to a relationship. I have little sympathy however for those who choose to remain in relationships where they endlessly smear their partners and generalise their personal discontent to smear anyone they perceive as being similar to their partners. In fact, it disgusts me.



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09 Feb 2015, 7:29 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
I read an argument in an article that it is less bad to make fun of skinny people for being skinny than fat people for being fat, because skinny is closer to the current society ideal, but I don't buy into the idea that it is less bad to make fun of skinny people for being skinny than fat people for being fat.


My family was calling me bad names for being skinny, though the former girlfriend of my brother is fat, they did not called her bad names.
I got extreme psychosomatic stress from it including a tremor and difficulties with eating next to them and being able to swallow food at all, because they were severely bullying me for being skinny.


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09 Feb 2015, 7:31 pm

I wish I could make you soup, and feed it to you, so I could see you smile.



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09 Feb 2015, 7:36 pm

Make mine minestrone Kraftie! We skinnies do get off lightly however compared to people who have different metabolisms. I'm not offended, I do think it must be painful for people who are very challenged by slow metabolisms to see people like me eat for 10 and not put on weight. I wish I could contribute those genes to them...



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09 Feb 2015, 7:42 pm

iammaz wrote:
Jono wrote:
I was also talking about 2 threads here on WP. Unless you link me to an example, then I don't know what you're talking about. Those were the only 2 threads in this particular sub forum that was talking about NT's, at least on the first page. There's no a third one from 2012 that was necroed recently but that one is talking about whether how drugs and alcohol affect aspies and NT's differently. I don't get it, if this attitude towards NT's is so pervasive, then I don't understand why you can't show me a specific example of a post that shows it.

Edit to add. I only know of one person who said bizarre things about NT's (recently at least) and that was in another thread, also about the ASPartners forum about 3 months ago.


I'm over it. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=152870
Go nuts.


You really think that thread is about bashing NT's? It's just a fun thread asking people to list things that other people have done that annoy them. There are NT's who have actually participated in that thread and there was also another thread entitled "100 ways to annoy an NT".



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09 Feb 2015, 7:45 pm

Have you ever had cow heel soup, B19? That's a mainstay in Trinidad and Tobago.

It's a very hearty soup. You could also put other meat in it as well (e.g., oxtails, steak...not so much chicken, though, since it's pretty much a "beef" sort of soup).

Yes, I'm jealous of people who can eat like a horse yet never gain weight!



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09 Feb 2015, 7:48 pm

Straw man.

The central focus of WP and its raison d'etre is not the bashing of Nts. It is true that a small minority of (usually young) WP members sometimes vent their frustrations after NT experiences that have hurt them, but it is undertandable that sometimes this happens, the comments are balanced by older or other members with more life experience at putting things in the wider context, and are merely peripheral to the main foci of WP which is a support and discussion site about many things which affect the lives of people on the spectrum.

This is totally different to the central focus of a bashing site like AS Partners, where the central focus is bashing a minority group with a considerable degree of malice and untruths.



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09 Feb 2015, 7:49 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Have you ever had cow heel soup, B19? That's a mainstay in Trinidad and Tobago.

It's a very hearty soup. You could also put other meat in it as well (e.g., oxtails, steak...not so much chicken, though, since it's pretty much a "beef" sort of soup).

Yes, I'm jealous of people who can eat like a horse yet never gain weight!


Love oxtail soup on cold Winter nights if it is slow-cooked for max flavour from the marrow bones. Yum!