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18 Oct 2015, 12:04 pm

Bullying may be factor to affect mind of shooter, but it is not the cause of the shooting.


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18 Oct 2015, 12:05 pm

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The author is clearly unfamiliar teen suicide and school shootings.

If you look at a majority of teen suicides, many of them are caused by bullying. Thousands of teenagers have lost their lives to bullying and the person that wrote this encourages that?!

Adam Lanza was bullied as a kid, and he murdered his mother and 20 children.



I read he had OCD and had a lot of compulsions about killing so it wouldn't surprise me if his OCD attributed to the crime. I did read in "The Man Who Couldn't Stop" by David Adam that people with OCD can commit a crime due to their compulsions and they couldn't control it anymore so they give in but it's rare for an OCD person to commit a crime due to their illness. That might have explained my own violent thoughts and heading for psychopathy with our dog we had and that was my OCD flaring up because of that damn animal.

I think some people are more likely to shoot up a school than others who are also bullied victims or else tons of them would be doing it. Also I don't get why they would even kill innocent people in the first place who never did anything wrong to them. He walked into a elementary school and did it so I doubt all these kids bullied him. He was a 20 year old guy and all these kids were like under 12 so I doubt he knew them personally. Reminds me of the movie Carrie when after the mean joke these kids did, she uses her power to kill everyone in the prom and then she dies at the end and she had been bullied badly and abused by her peers and teachers. Even Stephen King seemed to predict the future with his book. I didn't start hearing about school shootings until I was in the 6th grade.


Bullying and school shootings have somewhat of a correlation. Bullying can make teenagers so depressed that they commit suicide. Committing suicide means one has nothing to lose, there is something in one's life (or lack thereof) that isn't worth living for.

Since suicidal teenagers have nothing to lose, they don't really care if they killed innocent people.

That's just my opinion.

The Columbine gunmen are suspected to have shot up their school in order to get revenge, due to the amount of bullying they had to face.


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18 Oct 2015, 12:07 pm

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I was bullied as a kid, I haven't murdered anyone. It's a whole variety of factors that leads to people killing, bullying may be one but it doesn't make it the cause.


If bullying is an aspect in every school shooting case and a variety of other factors differ in each case, then one would have to be willfully blind to ignore the underlying cause.



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18 Oct 2015, 12:08 pm

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I was bullied as a kid, I haven't murdered anyone. It's a whole variety of factors that leads to people killing, bullying may be one but it doesn't make it the cause.


Bullying appears to be a factor. If you examine school shootings there seems to be a common factor--bullying.

I'm not saying all people that are bullied shoot up schools. I'm saying almost all people that shoot up schools were bullied, and bullying had something to do with their actions.


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18 Oct 2015, 12:09 pm

Correlation is not necessarily causation, though.



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18 Oct 2015, 12:10 pm

Not to mention most people were bullied.



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18 Oct 2015, 12:11 pm

How people deal with bullying is critical, the article has a point about that.


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18 Oct 2015, 12:14 pm

It's something that has to be dealt with constructively. You can't lie down and give up. You have to learn to defend yourself.

That being said, steps must be taken to prevent bullying from happening in the first place.



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18 Oct 2015, 12:17 pm

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Bullying may be factor to affect mind of shooter, but it is not the cause of the shooting.


I guess we'll never know (unless a time machine is invented).

Perhaps a lack of bullying may have prevented a school shooting. Perhaps it wouldn't have.


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18 Oct 2015, 12:18 pm

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Not to mention most people were bullied.


Yes, and people handle that treatment differently-- if you hit a few dogs each one will give a different reaction, some will run, some will fight back. If you hit a dog and it bites back would you claim that hitting it wasn't the cause?



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18 Oct 2015, 12:18 pm

I doubt it. It's usually victim blaming from the killers.



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18 Oct 2015, 12:19 pm

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Not to mention most people were bullied.


Happy 1500 posts.

It depends what one defines as bullying.


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18 Oct 2015, 12:20 pm

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Not to mention most people were bullied.


Yes, and people handle that treatment differently-- if you hit a few dogs each one will give a different reaction, some will run, some will fight back. If you hit a dog and it bites back would you claim that hitting it wasn't the cause?

You can't compare self defense to f*****g school shooter, jesus christ.



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18 Oct 2015, 12:29 pm

iliketrees wrote:
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Not to mention most people were bullied.


Yes, and people handle that treatment differently-- if you hit a few dogs each one will give a different reaction, some will run, some will fight back. If you hit a dog and it bites back would you claim that hitting it wasn't the cause?

You can't compare self defense to f*****g school shooter, jesus christ.


The shooter(s) might believe that they are defending themselves, and in a way, they sort of are.


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18 Oct 2015, 12:35 pm

Rudin wrote:
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Not to mention most people were bullied.


Yes, and people handle that treatment differently-- if you hit a few dogs each one will give a different reaction, some will run, some will fight back. If you hit a dog and it bites back would you claim that hitting it wasn't the cause?

You can't compare self defense to f*****g school shooter, jesus christ.


The shooter(s) might believe that they are defending themselves, and in a way, they sort of are.

Killing a bunch of grade schoolers is in no way self defense.



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18 Oct 2015, 12:43 pm

iliketrees wrote:
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iliketrees wrote:
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Not to mention most people were bullied.


Yes, and people handle that treatment differently-- if you hit a few dogs each one will give a different reaction, some will run, some will fight back. If you hit a dog and it bites back would you claim that hitting it wasn't the cause?

You can't compare self defense to f*****g school shooter, jesus christ.


The shooter(s) might believe that they are defending themselves, and in a way, they sort of are.

Killing a bunch of grade schoolers is in no way self defense.


No it is not. However if they grade schoolers bully and abuse the shooter, I can see how shooting up said school could be seen as self-defense in the shooter's mind.


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