Most people on this forum don't have Asperger's Syndrome

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i do not care if i can employ the understanding i get from my satisfactory resolution of my inquisitions to make any gain.
i just want to know the answer to what i am curious about, and when i get an idea, it is imperative to me to explore it to see if it is valid, and if it is, i am happy to expand on it and develop it into other trajectories, and it is all a kind of complicated doodling anyway.

i have no intentions of trying to rope other minds into inspecting what i have found on fundamental levels, but if there is a creative expression that i wish to put on youtube or in a song on soundclick that stems from it, then that is something that others may see and i am happy to hear what they think about that, but it will never be possible for me to actually tell them how i came to do what they are interested in.

as far as traffic flow applications in the real world go, my ideas were not able to be considered in only 2 dimensions.
but the topic is not about that, but there will be no other topic in which it would be appropriate to reply to your post.

sorry that does not compute. there is some rule woven into what you said that eludes me because to me it does not relate at all to what i said (which it should since you quoted me).
but maybe one is "partial to the wee dram" (a suspicion fortified by the grammatical error that i have underlined to assist your single open wandering eye) and so it is well to just let you mumble away in the corner until you drift off to sleep.
maybe i am wrong, and if i am, please provide your deciphered transcript of what you meant? it seems such a waste to let a good mind rest on such an unkempt laurel.

Lol, you're a ret*d.

Aspergers is not just about social awkwardness. Social awkwardness is a smaller component of aspergers than most people believe.

Aspergers and autism are neurological disorders, not social disorders. The social awkwardness is a symptom of neurological distress, not the disease itself. People with aspergers are also much more prone to digestive distress and food sensitivities, motor dexterity impairment (especially large muscle motor coordination), tics and seizures, EEG brainwave irritability and excitation, and also mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, or bipolar.

Aspergers and AD(H)D go hand in hand.

Aspergers is also caused by poisoning in the environment, and also trauma during pregnancy (i.e. mother getting sick, especially with fever). My mom had a high fever when she was pregnant with me, which caused me to have pectus excavatum (concave sternum) as well as severe, debilitating autism, which I was diagnosed with by one of the leading autism specialists in ottawa, in 1990. I was downgraded from severe autism to aspergers, when I was formally diagnosed as having aspergers at 19 following extensive neuropsychological evaluation, and several different EEGs. The reason for this, was because my parents had to train me over years, to act like a human. Through their efforts, they singlehandedly got me from what I like to call, "head banging autism" to somewhat functional aspergers syndrome.

Either way, I have the formal diagnosis, which was achieved by scientific observation.

Aspergers and autism are not a fad - they are a direct consequence of environmental pollution and dysgenics caused by a lack of natural selection in rich, western countries. It used to be 4 in 10000 boys were born with aspergers (real autism rates were much rarer), and 2 in 10000 for girls. Then it was 1 in 88, now some people are saying 1 in 30. In fact, experts argue that by 2030, 1 in 2 children born will be have some form of autism.

Causes of autism are as follows: Fetuses and children exposed to GMO foods, contamination in the water supply (fluoride, perscription drugs, aluminum, plastic residues, xenoestrogens, etc), BPA in plastic packaging, Vaccines, chemtrails, etc. both in utero and throughout every phase of growth. All of this puts stress on the nervous system and autism is a neurological disorder, resulting from environmental chemical poisoning.

Aspergers and autism are almost unheard of in primitive, traditional, organic, indigenous, and tribal societies.

"Beating a Dead Horse" is a saying that means a particular line of conversation (i.e., a thread of posts) is already resolved, and that any attempt to continue it is a waste of time, as the outcome is already decided.

But don't let me stop your fun.

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Because those societies are very secluded from the outside world and will not seek a psychologist hence the lack of people diagnosed in tribes.

For the most part no and most of the criticism of those who are self diagnosised seem to assume I think those people are faking autism. I feel armchair psychologists are not armed with the proper training or credentials to make a proper diagnosis of themselves or family members.

If you ever seen the movie, "My Girl" the female lead self diagnoses herself with many terminal illnesses.

I feel people who self diagnosis run the risk of receiving the incorrect treatment I've even run into a female aspie blogger who claimed to have Asperger's and used aspie label only to get formally diagnosised with something completely different which requires different treatment.

Now how she handled it afterwards I would be leaning towards poseur as she still uses the aspie label and still identifies with aspergers

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Those societies may also be ignorant of psychological principles and illiterate. Couple those with having no Internet access, and how could they possibly even know what an ASD is?

does anyone else in 39uqlksdj3ujadlskd agree with you?

i am not sure how it has been resolved so i guess therein lies the problem.

They won't. But they can still have it, unlike what jkrane is saying.

identity and disorders, an interesting topic

I don't think I will ever understand how people can form such a strong attachment to something negative. My friend for example has sensory issues, requires a routine and lacks social skills, and he hates it. He also becomes enraged unable to understand his emotions from time to time.

If the attachment exists, then I think the label must be positive, and for such people, not a disorder/condition, but just something that they know about themselves that they accept, kind of like how people describe themselves in other ways.

If AS isn't an impairment then I don't understand how that person can be differentiated from an NT. I known many NTs with heightened sensitivity (not to the extent of diagnosed autistics obv.), routines, lack social skills, literal interpretation etc.

kind of feel like an ass, because I think it is a positive thing that people experience, but it annoys me that I can't relate to nor understand it, also that I hate tumblr lmao

Exactly.

People were ignorant of Germ Theory in the mid-1300s, but that didn't stop the Black Death from killing roughly three-quarters of the world's population.

I have to wonder why some people equate absence of evidence with evidence of absence.

Only thing with the topic creator that I seen was him talk about how most people do not have aspergers and their reliance on armchair psychologists which is another way to say Dr mom.

I think the people reading this topic took it from him talking about self disgnosised autistics being diagnosised from people other than the proper medically trained persons

Apparently not, since the DSM got rid of it.

Why is categorization useful ?

The OP contends because high functioning don't want to be lumped in with lower functioning people.



You failed to mention that many former AS people are now on the NT spectrum because of this change (i.e., they failed to meet the new criteria).

Now the diagnosis is rooted in functional deficits that need support. Severity Level 1 is "Requiring Support".

If you are fine without support, then congratulations you now a NT spectrumite. This should of moved a significant % of high functioning former AS people onto the NT spectrum.

We can imagine many children will now grow out of their ASD diagnosis as they get older, and no longer need support.


There is a stigma about autistic people: you're presumed to be intellectually impaired.

At school they call autistic people names like "ret*d". On the job, for example, the US military just assumes if you have an ASD, then you are automatically not qualified.

That was one of the OP's points. No longer can AS people hide behind the abstraction of "I am just different, not impaired", now they will be presumed to be intellectually impaired. And the DSM backs that presumption up, because level 1 is "Requires Support".

It's useful because it says how much support an individual needs.


Who said that "many" AS people need no support? Impairment was still required in the past, too.


Requiring support does not mean someone is intellectually impaired. What gave you that idea? People can need support for a large variety of reasons.

They implemented "severity levels", because categories don't tell you how much support an individual needs.



I don't know. I didn't say it.



ASD diagnosis is based on needing support for mental functional deficits.

The DSM spells it out.

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