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That's when you ask someone you trust to explain the situation to you. Sometimes though expect to have it pointed out what you did wrong as well as what they did wrong.

So you're going to sulk. Ok well it's better than what you were doing before. When you are done being upset hopefully you will go talk to someone who can explain this all to you in a way that shows you I wasn't being the bad guy you have made me out to be.

To clarify about the manipulator checklist, how many of the items need to be present for the model of manipulation to fit? Because each of the items is something that may be present in regular non manipulative interactions too.

I love your merry berry and eggs words!! ! And Rabbit in Cat's Clothing. It makes me happy when I see your posts.

I didn't make you out to be a bad guy. You chose to call me delusional and neurotic, and you chose to make every interaction between us a personal matter. You were unwilling to handle a disagreement without resorting to insults.

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Each of the items can be present without it being manipulation. It goes beyond simply filling out a checklist but also relates to how you react to it, or what the person is trying to get out of you, and I would say that not all manipulation is necessarily bad, but if that's the only way someone knows to get what they need it can be a big problem.

This thread has gone a long way with such a stupid OP.

Usually you look for two or more. Some things can seem manipulative, but really are just a lapse in judgement and not meant to be.

Edited to add: With a little practice you will see the pattern of how they do it. Each person is different based on their level of intelligence and experiences. The most common and obvious form of manipulation is the aggressive manipulator. There are other types, but some are not bad. Like say for instance your parent telling you that you will get an allowance at the end of the week if you do your chores. They are meant to encourage you to take responsibility and reward you for it. It is a form of manipulation, but not a bad one. Bad one's would include forcing you to feel something towards another person or people. Such as when someone says, "You don't love me, because you won't buy me that toy." That isn't good manipulation, that is self serving and only benefits the person wanting the toy by playing into the emotions of the person who is denying them the toy.

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For me it can get kind of confusing to keep track of who said what. But I think it does matter. Sometimes I benefit greatly from reading how other people respond to manipulation and bullying. A lot of the time I don't know how to respond. I even wonder if I'm the only person who sees it.

You want to know something, I keep asking myself who is more in touch with reality here and I keep realizing that it isn't you. Apparently you are stuck in an event that happened a month ago, so I will leave you to it.

Okay I have a feeling this thread is going to be locked really soon to have to respond quickly,

It's not just kingdom of rats it's that you always seem to lash out at everyone. I was telling you are being to harsh in general not asking you to treat her differently I was saying that this post. ( perticuarlly the first paragraph) made me feel that you were crossing the line which came out of now were and was not only accusing us of not treating her on a equal level and that we believe we she is made of glass and is unable to be as coherent on wp. The latter is the same thing that you yourself accused other severe autistics of on my other thread.

There is a difference between sharing your thoughts and opinions and being disrespectful.


When I was talking about discrimination I was not trying to attack you I was just trying to explain why her posts emporwer me like you asked me to clarify.



Like KOR I have experienced this stuff and think of her and other members here while I'm advocating against this kind of stuff. I also experienced the kind of arguments that people use to ague why they think they deserve pity and why they believe their lives are miserable and they are suffering.


I don't like you encouraging me to share my feelings and then turn around and stab me in the back. And tell me that I'm trying to get attention and that I'm using other people as a scapegoat and accuse me of being against kingdom of rats when I am not this is bullying.

Your posts makes other feel bad about themselves and not just because you have a different opinion from them or another form of communication.

You can share your beliefs and still be respectful but when you insult people who have a different opinion from you or who do not understand you and knock them down and make them afraid to have share how their posts make you feel and or make you feel stupid or like the post doesn't matter, worthless or similar again this is bullying.


If you do not believe this is bullying or believe I'm attacking you why don't you consult with a moderator?

I'm sure they can clear things up and be referee

To others posting on this thread i'm sorry this got so out-of-control myself and others didn't mean to ruin your thread. I did not expect this conversation to get so out of hand and trying to get two separate arguments that are taking away from the rest of the thread.

jenisautistic,

Well, I went to the moderator thread and they said they weren't ready to lock it yet.

Anyway, you write well, considering that you're 15 years old.

I wouldn't take too much credit anyone would be hard pressed to find a thread that is this long discussing behavior and not get off topic. People tend to take things personal when there is no reason to especially around conversations of behavior so don't feel bad about it, isn't something to feel bad about.

I love what you wrote, Jenisautistic.

And as far as WP getting annoying, a place where a 15 year old girl can effectively stand up for herself has a lot going for it.

coudnt comprehend any of the longer posts; not thrugh lack of attention span just very difficult to understand.

anyway,whatevers gone on,am in support of jen and wozeree;theyre both non patronising and am treated like an equal by them,plus dont know why am being brought into this. whys everything got to become a serious issue where people sling e-crap at each other?