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18 Nov 2010, 2:05 pm

I see it as being a largely incidental trait.
It brought up terrible insecurities when I was younger, to be sure, but I'm essentially indifferent about it these days.



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18 Nov 2010, 2:29 pm

I have a quiet pride in being AS-certainly I woulden't cure myself if I could. Apart from anything else I'd lose my state benifits if I became NT.But more then that, it's a part of me.



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19 Nov 2010, 12:45 pm

I know I get a bit more money than everyone else, (DLA), and a bit more on job-seekers, but I'll rather be normal than get a bit more money than everyone else. What's the point of having extra money if you have no-one to do things with? I'd love to go on a lovely tropical holiday with friends, or even cousins. But they have ''better things to do'' than to want to do things with me.

And no - I am not going to go on a holiday on my own. Shut up if you're about to write a post in saying, ''book up a holiday on your own - it's easy, blah blah blah.''

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19 Nov 2010, 12:48 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I know I get a bit more money than everyone else, (DLA), and a bit more on job-seekers, but I'll rather be normal than get a bit more money than everyone else. What's the point of having extra money if you have no-one to do things with? I'd love to go on a lovely tropical holiday with friends, or even cousins. But they have ''better things to do'' than to want to do things with me.

And no - I am not going to go on a holiday on my own. Shut up if you're about to write a post in saying, ''book up a holiday on your own - it's easy, blah blah blah.''

Thanks for reading.


My response would be that I hope you're actually trying to find a job with all that money you're stealing from me (as a tax payer).



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19 Nov 2010, 5:09 pm

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My response would be that I hope you're actually trying to find a job with all that money you're stealing from me (as a tax payer).


YES I AM!! !! !! !

I'm not posting on this stupid topic any more.


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19 Nov 2010, 5:40 pm

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Joe90 wrote:
I know I get a bit more money than everyone else, (DLA), and a bit more on job-seekers, but I'll rather be normal than get a bit more money than everyone else. What's the point of having extra money if you have no-one to do things with? I'd love to go on a lovely tropical holiday with friends, or even cousins. But they have ''better things to do'' than to want to do things with me.

And no - I am not going to go on a holiday on my own. Shut up if you're about to write a post in saying, ''book up a holiday on your own - it's easy, blah blah blah.''

Thanks for reading.


My response would be that I hope you're actually trying to find a job with all that money you're stealing from me (as a tax payer).


Its not stealing if he has a diagnosis! What he gets in money is his business. You wouldn't like people to interfere in your business, would you? People should deal with their own lives and don't interfere with others. Envy is the problem today, with money, especially since this financial crisis opened up. Now those who have less are villifying others that have more. If you want more money, do something constructive with your time, something that allows you to make more money,

I live in the UK. Its hell here and people can't shut their stupid mouths for 5 seconds. Bring on another civil war, clean my country up. Believe me, there are gonna be a lot of dead Brits when we get finished with each other.



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20 Nov 2010, 3:44 am

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Joe90 wrote:
I know I get a bit more money than everyone else, (DLA), and a bit more on job-seekers, but I'll rather be normal than get a bit more money than everyone else. What's the point of having extra money if you have no-one to do things with? I'd love to go on a lovely tropical holiday with friends, or even cousins. But they have ''better things to do'' than to want to do things with me.

And no - I am not going to go on a holiday on my own. Shut up if you're about to write a post in saying, ''book up a holiday on your own - it's easy, blah blah blah.''

Thanks for reading.


My response would be that I hope you're actually trying to find a job with all that money you're stealing from me (as a tax payer).


Its not stealing if he has a diagnosis! What he gets in money is his business. You wouldn't like people to interfere in your business, would you? People should deal with their own lives and don't interfere with others. Envy is the problem today, with money, especially since this financial crisis opened up. Now those who have less are villifying others that have more. If you want more money, do something constructive with your time, something that allows you to make more money,

I live in the UK. Its hell here and people can't shut their stupid mouths for 5 seconds. Bring on another civil war, clean my country up. Believe me, there are gonna be a lot of dead Brits when we get finished with each other.


I couldn't care less how much money other people have, I just hate those who keep leaching off of the tax payer to get it. I work to get my money. I run businesses. I don't just claim any benefit I can then brag about how much money I have.

IMO, the government needs to cut all these benefits. They're making Britain a socialist country - they already control over half the economy and they're giving free money to people FFS.

"I HAZ ASPERGER'S NOW GIVE ME MY FREE MONEY!! !"



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20 Nov 2010, 6:35 am

You chose to work and run businesses. You could easily claim benefits if you wanted to. Obviously you want more money and so you work for it because the benefit is "paltry to your tastes" or you have a pride thing where you grew up hearing that working for a living was the honourable thing to do and that "stealing off the state" was for idiots.



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20 Nov 2010, 6:39 am

Craig28 wrote:
You chose to work and run businesses. You could easily claim benefits if you wanted to. Obviously you want more money and so you work for it because the benefit is "paltry to your tastes" or you have a pride thing where you grew up hearing that working for a living was the honourable thing to do and that "stealing off the state" was for idiots.


Yes, I probably could claim benefits if I wanted to. I'm not really sure, I never did much research into it, because living off of hand outs payed for by people who actually work is pathetic.

Stealing off the state is not for idiots, it's for lazy good-for-nothings who may very well have brains but choose not to use them, because why do that when you can sit in front of a massive government-payed-for TV and do f**k all?

Read my benefits thread I just made in PPR. It makes a good point.



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20 Nov 2010, 12:38 pm

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Its not stealing if he has a diagnosis! What he gets in money is his business. You wouldn't like people to interfere in your business, would you? People should deal with their own lives and don't interfere with others. Envy is the problem today, with money, especially since this financial crisis opened up. Now those who have less are villifying others that have more. If you want more money, do something constructive with your time, something that allows you to make more money,

I live in the UK. Its hell here and people can't shut their stupid mouths for 5 seconds. Bring on another civil war, clean my country up. Believe me, there are gonna be a lot of dead Brits when we get finished with each other.

I didn't want to write any more messages on this topic, but thank you for agreeing with me.

ASP-Z, I wasn't boasting about anything. I just get extra help with my job-seekers - I didn't ask them to give me extra money. They just saw I was statemented at school, and claim DLA, and was diagnosed with a few conditions (not only I have AS and Dyspraxia - I also have a heart problem). If you're that bothered, why don't you claim for DLA? I'm sure you'll be able to get it.
This countries's debt is not caused by DLA. I'm scared to write on here the reason behind why this country is in debt, because I might be banned from Wrong Planet, for being a ''racist'' against Eastern Europeans (I gave it away there). Well, it wouldn't be being racist because it's a true fact, but I don't know how others respond to these kinds of things, so I'll better keep my mouth shut.

Anyway - the topic has kind of drifted onto another subject, so just switch it back to ''Are You Proud Of Having Aspergers''.


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20 Nov 2010, 1:28 pm

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Its not stealing if he has a diagnosis! What he gets in money is his business. You wouldn't like people to interfere in your business, would you? People should deal with their own lives and don't interfere with others. Envy is the problem today, with money, especially since this financial crisis opened up. Now those who have less are villifying others that have more. If you want more money, do something constructive with your time, something that allows you to make more money,

I live in the UK. Its hell here and people can't shut their stupid mouths for 5 seconds. Bring on another civil war, clean my country up. Believe me, there are gonna be a lot of dead Brits when we get finished with each other.

I didn't want to write any more messages on this topic, but thank you for agreeing with me.

ASP-Z, I wasn't boasting about anything. I just get extra help with my job-seekers - I didn't ask them to give me extra money. They just saw I was statemented at school, and claim DLA, and was diagnosed with a few conditions (not only I have AS and Dyspraxia - I also have a heart problem). If you're that bothered, why don't you claim for DLA? I'm sure you'll be able to get it.
This countries's debt is not caused by DLA. I'm scared to write on here the reason behind why this country is in debt, because I might be banned from Wrong Planet, for being a ''racist'' against Eastern Europeans (I gave it away there). Well, it wouldn't be being racist because it's a true fact, but I don't know how others respond to these kinds of things, so I'll better keep my mouth shut.

Anyway - the topic has kind of drifted onto another subject, so just switch it back to ''Are You Proud Of Having Aspergers''.


I am not bothered because I don't get benefits - I can easily claim for DLA and exaggerate the effects of Asperger's so I get free money just like you do. But I don't want to commit fraud to get government handouts. I make my own money.

No, the debt isn't caused by immigrants. It's caused by over-spending by the government. If you spend more than you get in, you lose money, and this is what Labour were doing for the past odd ten years. That's why we're in debt.

And yes, benefits have contributed to this hugely - they spend more on benefits than they get in income tax! Because no one's f**king paying income tax due to how easy it is to get benefits, probably :roll:

We're also in debt because the majority of our economy is now controlled by the public sector, and money going into the public sector is not going back into the economy.

You should go and read my benefits thread in PPR too so we can quit hijacking this one.



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20 Nov 2010, 4:59 pm

Nee-ope.



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21 Nov 2010, 6:17 am

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Stealing off the state is not for idiots, it's for lazy good-for-nothings who may very well have brains but choose not to use them, because why do that when you can sit in front of a massive government-payed-for TV and do f**k all?

I'm on benefits. I've never once been employed and it's not for a lack of trying. Hopefully I will get an apprenticeship soon doing something I love.
And yes, I have a brain but employers look for social skills in interviews.
I also do 3-5 things in a day like studying physics, neuroscience and other little projects to keep me occupied.
My autism is impairing. Any change freaks me out. When I did work experience it was exhausting, fortunately I'm on medication now which gives me much more energy.
You need to think about who you may offend and that not everyone on the spectrum is like you. And you should be aware that your emotional language will be seen as offensive. Otherwise why use that type of language?

Btw Australia got out of the recession after the government gave everyone (except me) a stimulus package to basically just go out there and spend.


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21 Nov 2010, 10:24 am

What you wrote is similiar to how I feel about employment.

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I'm on benefits. I've never once been employed and it's not for a lack of trying. Hopefully I will get an apprenticeship soon doing something I love.

I haven't been employed either. I've just finished college a year ago, and I've been on job-seekers ever since. Just because I went to college doesn't mean I'll be able to find a job any easier. I went to college because I wanted to go on a course for teenagers with special needs like myself, to improve my maths and english grades, because I didn't do well in those particular exams. So, ASP-Z - that was one thing I done to give myself a head start for adult life.
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And yes, I have a brain but employers look for social skills in interviews.

Very true. I've been to lots of interviews within the last couple of years, and I done my best but didn't get the jobs.
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I also do 3-5 things in a day like studying physics, neuroscience and other little projects to keep me occupied

That's great you're doing something. Like me, I go to a charity shop almost every day to do voluntry work, so I can get out and meet different people and try other experiences.
Anything's better than nothing, whatever you do. Occupying yourself is a great way to get going - because I know a lot of NTs who just doss about when they're in the dole, unlike you and me, and other Aspies on here.
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My autism is impairing. Any change freaks me out. When I did work experience it was exhausting, fortunately I'm on medication now which gives me much more energy.

That's fair enough. That's why people like us who claim DLA aren't stealing from anyone - we may need that extra money because, like Pensieve said, Autism can be impairing at times with certain things, especially when it comes to routine and employment. This is why I'm looking for part-time work, upto 3 to 4 days a week (even if it's 6 hours in the day). It's not that I'm being lazy - I just think that having time to myself is more important to me than working full-time and getting a bit more money.


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21 Nov 2010, 11:17 am

As I said already, if you're actually looking for a job, I don't think you're stealing, what I have trouble with is people living off of benefits instead of actually looking for employment then bragging about how much money they have.

Though, when it comes to DLA specifically, I do have a bit of an issue, because more often than not, you have to exaggerate the effects Asperger's has on your life to get it, which is benefit fraud - and that IS stealing.



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21 Nov 2010, 4:29 pm

I don't think I would change a thing except for the social isolation and loneliness. If I had it to do all over again, I think I would want to be an Aspie all over again... but with a few changes. The long term memory that comes with AS (at least with my AS) is my greatest gift in life and other people have told me that they only wished they knew the very few things that I had forgotten. The obsessions are a true commodity that puts you in high demand in the workplace and allows you to do so many things in life that other people cannot even begin to do. The sensitivities and loyalty makes you a far better person than anybody else out there. Certainly it is a mixed bag and AS does come with a heavy load of baggage that makes life difficult if not unbearable at times, but overall I think the bottom line is that it makes you a better person.