29 Mar 2021, 9:38 pm
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08 Jun 2021, 4:51 pm
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Sorry this is a very delayed response and I'm not even sure if you are still with us?
I was responding to a very specific question about NTs being cruel in the teenage years. If and when it happens then the group psychology tends to make them behave in a manner that often they wouldn't do as individuals.
There's a book we had to read in school called "Lord of the flies" by William Golding. It essentially about small boys who find themselves lost on an island by themselves after the adults died after a plane crash. Its how these innocent boys became brutal and sadistic when forming a group and left to their own devices. This concept has been repeated many times over the years in television dramas. Kind of an innocence lost.
But does this happen all the time? definitely not. However when you approach a group there will be some form of thing you have to demonstrate to be accepted by the group. For some groups it's not much, for others it will take plenty of convincing. Often it never happens.
I was responding to a very specific question about NTs being cruel in the teenage years. If and when it happens then the group psychology tends to make them behave in a manner that often they wouldn't do as individuals.
There's a book we had to read in school called "Lord of the flies" by William Golding. It essentially about small boys who find themselves lost on an island by themselves after the adults died after a plane crash. Its how these innocent boys became brutal and sadistic when forming a group and left to their own devices. This concept has been repeated many times over the years in television dramas. Kind of an innocence lost.
But does this happen all the time? definitely not. However when you approach a group there will be some form of thing you have to demonstrate to be accepted by the group. For some groups it's not much, for others it will take plenty of convincing. Often it never happens.
I don't quite remember why I made that comment, but I think I had been reading not just that reply but several of yours. I think what struck me was that, as a person on the spectrum, putting in the effort to "getting into" the NT-world in general, with all its social challenges, manipulations, unwritten rules and occasional rewards just seems like a huge challenge, and I wonder if I'm not better off with the limited time I have in life to pursue other things that better suit my temperament, like photography, language, travel, etc.
Wow! I'm new here trying to figure out if my son sits on the spectrum (which has been suggested) or if it's something else.
We experienced the Lord of the Flies effect in a major way in our previous neighbourhood!
I let the kids come and play in ones and twos, sometimes loads of them, and it worked OK. But come the holidays they turned feral. They'd swear, fight, chase my son en-masse. When we ignored knock-knock-run it turned to stones being thrown at our windows.
It may be a natural progression, but should not be allowed to happen. I can't believe so many parents chose to turn a blind eye to what was going on.
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