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25 Jul 2010, 12:07 am

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I'll be sure to get pics together, if nothing else and will be on the watch for the effects of chemo. in any case, a fresh huge scar over her gut where they cut out the tumor would be rather hard to fake.
cancer's location isn't ever-changing, there was simply one misunderstanding that went on for a bit due to some miscommunication which i'm still quite embarrassed about :oops: . It's definitely in the stomach. Although i guess if it metastasizes it could technically go to different places, yes.


If I am wrong and it turns out she is feeling the full effects of the chemo therapy be vary carefull of what you say to her you do not want to upset her, I believe chemo causes mood swings, my friend Joe when he was going through chemo was the nice guy we all knew and then suddenly he was enraged about something mundane. I know from experience aspies can easily put their feet in their mouths so be carefull.


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25 Jul 2010, 12:10 am

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I'll be sure to get pics together, if nothing else and will be on the watch for the effects of chemo. in any case, a fresh huge scar over her gut where they cut out the tumor would be rather hard to fake.
cancer's location isn't ever-changing, there was simply one misunderstanding that went on for a bit due to some miscommunication which i'm still quite embarrassed about :oops: . It's definitely in the stomach. Although i guess if it metastasizes it could technically go to different places, yes.


If I am wrong and it turns out she is feeling the full effects of the chemo therapy be vary carefull of what you say to her you do not want to upset her, I believe chemo causes mood swings, my friend Joe when he was going through chemo was the nice guy we all knew and then suddenly he was enraged about something mundane. I know from experience aspies can easily put their feet in their mouths so be carefull.
yeah, i had a grandma who had pancreatic cancer around the time i was 14-15. She died of it, but in the last few months she was drugged out of her mind most of the time and prone to get really upset out of nowhere. Didn't know that might've been the chemo though, i thought it was the just being upset over knowing she was slowly dying and the pain, etc. :oops:

will definitely be careful with my words in any case


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25 Jul 2010, 12:33 am

While I try to not make my own conclusions about something that is uncertain, I am very curious indeed about how this is going to turn out. Going so far to meet her is a huge leap to take, and a risky one. I truly wish you luck.


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25 Jul 2010, 12:35 am

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While I try to not make my own conclusions about something that is uncertain, I am very curious indeed about how this is going to turn out. Going so far to meet her is a huge leap to take, and a risky one. I truly wish you luck.
thanks, & i'll let y'all know when i find out either way.


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25 Jul 2010, 12:44 am

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While I try to not make my own conclusions about something that is uncertain, I am very curious indeed about how this is going to turn out. Going so far to meet her is a huge leap to take, and a risky one. I truly wish you luck.
thanks, & i'll let y'all know when i find out either way.


just be carefull that she might be someone who likes to create drama just to get people worked up. You might arrive at the airport with no one to pick you up or a fake address to search for. You might want to set up a back up plan in case every thing goes wrong. Find some sights to see or places to eat so you will not have the trip end up as a total lost.


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25 Jul 2010, 12:52 am

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While I try to not make my own conclusions about something that is uncertain, I am very curious indeed about how this is going to turn out. Going so far to meet her is a huge leap to take, and a risky one. I truly wish you luck.
thanks, & i'll let y'all know when i find out either way.


just be carefull that she might be someone who likes to create drama just to get people worked up. You might arrive at the airport with no one to pick you up or a fake address to search for. You might want to set up a back up plan in case every thing goes wrong. Find some sights to see or places to eat so you will not have the trip end up as a total lost.
On the off-chance something does go wrong, i suppose i could call Ferdinand and hang out, he said he lived close to the Indianapolis airport :) . Then that would be one member to cross off on my list of WP members i want to meet. Also i tend to make back-up plans for such things anyways. I like to be prepared...


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25 Jul 2010, 12:55 am

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Next time she's not sleeping and answers my phone call ... ... ... I've just been telling what i do know, which since communication's been shaky, ... isn't all that much. ... ... ... i just haven't had as much time to talk to her lately because she's had alot of family visiting to see her & stuff apparently. As i said though earlier, she said she might have some time to talk on the phone a lil later tonight ...

It sounds to me as if your/our questions have got her on the run.

She's "clever", because an unusual amount of sleep and "family visiting her" is so very possible, *if* she were gravely ill.

Except that there is no way that she or her mother could have a clear and definite enough diagnosis at this stage ( just 14 days after she supposedly first visited a doctor complaining of a headache, which has since gone away ) to warrant farewell visits from relatives.

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I've not even known what details to be asking her about.

You wouldn't have had to know, *if* her story were true. She would have told you all about her visit for blood tests, etc; a consultation with the specialist; her fasting for an MRI, what MRI was like; a follow-up visit for discussion about MRI results; the medication to control growth of the tumour, etc ... *if* her story was true. That would have been "her news" each day. At least it probably would be mine; if I had the threat of cancer hovering over me I'd be somewhat interested in, and needing to talk about, the various procedures and results etc.
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25 Jul 2010, 1:13 am

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Next time she's not sleeping and answers my phone call ... ... ... I've just been telling what i do know, which since communication's been shaky, ... isn't all that much. ... ... ... i just haven't had as much time to talk to her lately because she's had alot of family visiting to see her & stuff apparently. As i said though earlier, she said she might have some time to talk on the phone a lil later tonight ...

It sounds to me as if your/our questions have got her on the run.

She's "clever", because an unusual amount of sleep and "family visiting her" is so very possible, *if* she were gravely ill.

Except that there is no way that she or her mother could have a clear and definite enough diagnosis at this stage ( just 14 days after she supposedly first visited a doctor complaining of a headache, which has since gone away ) to warrant farewell visits from relatives.

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I've not even known what details to be asking her about.

You wouldn't have had to know, *if* her story were true. She would have told you all about the visit for a blood tests, etc; the consultation with the specialist; the visit for the MRI, what that was like; the follow-up visit for discussion about MRI results; the medication to control growth of the tumour, etc ... *if* her story was true. That would have been "her news" each day. At least it probably would be mine; if I had the threat of cancer hovering over me I'd be somewhat interested in, and needing to talk about, the various results etc.
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farewell visits :? ? could've just been concerned visits. Wouldn't put imminent death on the table quite yet, until further data is gathered.

Also, such things aren't exactly comfortable casual conversation topics, in fact during most of that week or so, i'd rather tried to avoid them as to not upset her. & i'd imagine someone with a potentially deadly disease wouldn't naturally be enthusiastic to gush on about it at every possible opportunity :? . So i don't really see it as too strange that that she wasn't talking about it to me daily.

and just out of casual curiousity, do you have a history of paranoia? Or just a fervent love of debate?


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25 Jul 2010, 1:15 am

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... do you have a history of paranoia? Or just a fervent love of debate?

A continuing ( chronic and often exhausting ) obsession with truth.
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25 Jul 2010, 1:22 am

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... do you have a history of paranoia? Or just a fervent love of debate?

A continuing ( chronic and often exhausting ) obsession with truth.
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some people believe different things are true.
Some people believe Bigfoot is a true story. Some people think not.

I think the cancer is true, you think it's "bigfoot"


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25 Jul 2010, 1:28 am

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... do you have a history of paranoia? Or just a fervent love of debate?

A continuing ( chronic and often exhausting ) obsession with truth.
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some people believe different things are true.
Some people believe Bigfoot is a true story. Some people think not.

I think the cancer is true, you think it's "bigfoot"

both unlikely to be proved true or false at this rate unless i were to see see them in person and get something conclusive.


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25 Jul 2010, 1:30 am

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... do you have a history of paranoia? Or just a fervent love of debate?

A continuing ( chronic and often exhausting ) obsession with truth.
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I do not know why I am so concerend with this. I do not know Sean but I do not want to see him screwed over I guess. I still think he too trusting. At least he gets to meet Ferdinand as a back up plan. :wink: :D


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25 Jul 2010, 1:31 am

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I think the cancer is true, you think it's "bigfoot"

:lol I do at the moment anyway, whereas I did start to wonder if it might be real, ( just after you discovered that she supposedly had stomach cancer instead of a brain tumour ), because it seemed to me that the incoherence and generally unconvincing nature of the story might simply be confused reporting ... but I've swung back to believing that it is in fact "bigfoot"! Sorry. :(
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25 Jul 2010, 1:35 am

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I think the cancer is true, you think it's "bigfoot"

:lol I do at the moment anyway, whereas I did start to wonder if it might be real, ( just after you discovered that she supposedly had stomach cancer instead of a brain tumour ), because it seemed to me that the incoherence and generally unconvincing nature of the story might simply be confused reporting ... but I've swung back to believing that it is in fact "bigfoot"! Sorry. :(
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Mehhh, i'm still a supporter of the "confused reporting" angle :? . Because i do tend to do that alot actually :lol: . One of the things that's embarrassing about being an aspie sometimes; the occasional misunderstandings.


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25 Jul 2010, 1:41 am

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ouinon wrote:
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... do you have a history of paranoia? Or just a fervent love of debate?

A continuing ( chronic and often exhausting ) obsession with truth.
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I do not know why I am so concerend with this. I do not know Sean but I do not want to see him screwed over I guess. I still think he too trusting. At least he gets to meet Ferdinand as a back up plan. :wink: :D
Yup, & Ferdinand just got back from France and i hear he has a new PS3. Not bad as far as back-up plans go. Also from what my GF tells me of Indiana, it sounds nice. Only $450/month for an apartment? (Or, the one she was renting apparently anyways i guess.) Hallelujah, maybe i'll scope out some real estate for the distant future. Sounds like cost of living is less over there than here, from what i'm hearing. Although the tornados sound terrible. Apparently a weak one went over my GF's apartment Not all that long ago. She didn't make it to any kind of shelter, and is scared of storms, so she just hid under her bed.


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25 Jul 2010, 2:00 am

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I think the cancer is true, you think it's "bigfoot"
:lol I do at the moment anyway, whereas I did start to wonder if it might be real, ( just after you discovered that she supposedly had stomach cancer instead of a brain tumour ), because it seemed to me that the incoherence and generally unconvincing nature of the story might simply be confused reporting ... but I've swung back to believing that it is in fact "bigfoot"! Sorry. :(
Both unlikely to be proved true or false at this rate unless i were to see see her in person and get something conclusive.

The trouble is that even if you did manage to collect the $500+ for a plane ticket and went to her house you might find her "not at home" ( not answering the door that is ) and she would tell you, by phone, that she was very sorry but that she had suddenly had to be transported to a hospital or specialist out of town for the time you are there, and so even a visit might not be conclusive. And however nice it would be to see Ferdinand you would still not have any conclusive evidence about her story, ( despite spending the $500 ).

Edit. PS. If her story was true, it is quite likely that she *would* appreciate spilling/sharing what is going on for her, the medical procedures, etc, and if you don't, out of "sensitivity" for her, she will think that the subject bores or depresses you and be afraid to do so.
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