So I posted in the infamous AS partners forum for NT's...

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Please don't feed Dana the troll.

I think the typical social and cognitive differences between nts and autistics make it impossible for one to meet the other's needs.

What a remarkable post! "Stay out of our pages, but we will come on here if we want!"

I apologise if this sounds harsh as English wouldn't appear to be your first language and maybe something got lost in translation?

That said, what an amazing site that must be where everybody who goes to post on there is 100% blameless, is 100% honest and 100% genuine. 0% have an agenda, 0% have their own mental health or developmental issues and 0% have ever done anything wrong. Truly amazing.

I have no desire whatsoever to venture into YOUR space Madam, so feel free to pay me the same courtesy and leave us horrible Demons to our vile and hateful crap.

You have cheered me up no end dana2090. Thank you.

I know from personal experience that you are wrong.

Is your hubby NT?

Personally, I think it is more complex then NTs and Autistics. One has to look at personality, desires, culture, wants, and other factors as well. It's more complex.

Yes, and he treats me like a queen. I endeavor to do the same for him. King, that is, not queen...



Of course. Sweeping generalizations are almost never accurate. That's why they're so harmful.

I disagree also.

I do endeavor to treat my wife as a queen as well. Yeah, I understand King



I always called them hasty generalizations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

I did not know it was called sweeping generalizations as well.

I've been guilty of making that fallacy but I do try to catch myself doing so. It is very tempting and easy to make though. I do believe that ASpartners are made up of a particular subgroup with characteristics that fall within certain ranges. If you took the subgroup and compared it to the population as a whole they may fall out of it. I'm not sure.

OK, how about "Imagine the above quotes being levelled at the physically handicapped." ? And does it alter my assertion that much of what they say is likely to foster hatred against us?

Physical handicaps don't necessarily mean trouble with social interaction. Whereas ASDs usually do.

Of course these can be worked on and some nts may be more supportive than others. It is a generalization based on a truth.

Crikey, I hadn't thought of that. Is that correct? It does seem a highly provocative post, to say the least. I was wondering if it's going to get the thread locked, if it really kicks off. That would be a shame. As long as we can keep it reasonably polite, this will remain a fascinating thread.

But does it alter my assertion that much of what they say is likely to foster hatred against us?

It might, but I don't see that as their intention. It seems more about sharing experiences. One poster did claim that her cancer was caused by stress from her autistic partner. But other posters were quick to argue that we don't cause cancer. So that's good.

By the way, the head moderators of that forum, bstn3 aka dana2090 just scapegoated one of their own members for the pure purpose of harassing me, here on Wrongplanet using the that whole forum. The guy was a new member so she thought he was easy pickings, nice support forum that.

Is that thread deleted? What did he really write?

Well said. And this is why I don't see any genuinely positive benefit for people to post there. It is just keeping them stuck in blame and victimization and pain.

But what's worse is, because it's a public site, it has the potential to spread misinformation, prejudice, and negativity to anyone who may read there.



That's a very good point and yeah I think most of them have missed it. You simply cannot judge the capabilities of autistic people based on knowing just one autistic person.

And I think because many of them share similar stories and experiences, they believe they have recognized a pattern that applies to all people with Asperger's or an ASD. But many of the traits and behaviors they are talking about are NOT associated with autism to begin with. Some of the discussion is about abusiveness and/or behaviors that are associated with other disorders. And quite a bit of it is just common, run-of-the-mill complaints that women have about men.

Many there have said that their partners have NOT been diagnosed with an ASD, and furthermore they do not care if that would be the correct diagnosis or not.

What makes all of this so wildly irresponsible is that the group is called "AS Partners" and from what I've seen, literally every partner who gets discussed there is referred to as having Asperger's (usually "Asp" or "Ash") whether they have been diagnosed or not. But there's very little legitimate discussion of Asperger's going on there.