Self diagnosed people here don't have aspergers

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03 May 2007, 10:13 pm

Political correctness ignores the fact that HUMAN BEINGS don't control the natural order of things, that no person can dictate facts to reality. Rather, reality lays the facts down and it's up to us to deal with them responsibly.



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03 May 2007, 10:14 pm

ahahaha,snake got in between..
it actually looks kinda funny
snake talking to sedaka and me getting inbetween,and then me babbling on and getting inbetween their posts.

Ok Im tired and babbling now.
(easily amuzed when sleepy)

and OT-again.



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03 May 2007, 10:38 pm

just read back and saw the term "textbook syndrome"... I'm confused.

My bf always has pointed out a lot of odd things I do, friends have suggested possibilities of things for me to look into, my therapist comments all the time on things I do while in his office-well before I even read anything about it, and I'm reminded of a lot of odd things I did as a child constantly when I watch my own two children interact with people and the way they do things.

But I've never heard that term, persay. Lol, but I took it in an odd way... I didn't take it personal, but it made me think for a minute because one of my reasons I want to get an official diagnosis is for wanting to be able to go get a book and read about it any time that I want to, learn more about the inner workings and all if possible. I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant...

...but I feel like moron for not knowing what you mean by that, lol.



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03 May 2007, 10:44 pm

I never called you out specifically though. There are some undiagnosed aspies who really are aspie, it's just a matter of realising who is and who isn't. Some people will highly exagerate their "symptoms" just for a fashion trend. Some of them aren't even loners.



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03 May 2007, 10:45 pm

I think one thing that will pretty much sum up everything I have said is
" I always feel normal until people give me a reason not to feel that way"
Ive tried to convince myself that Im just like other people
But again and again people remind me that Im not.would always focus on the negative be
Its like I constantly have had to defend myself and say there's nothing wrong with me,until I found this place and I started seeing all the good sides too.
I just would focus on the negatives before and get frustrated.



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03 May 2007, 10:46 pm

no, I mean, literally I don't know what it means, lol. Would you mind expanding on that specifically?



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03 May 2007, 10:46 pm

oops,a few spelling mistakes there-sorry
05.46 am....need to be going to bed cause I cant even type right,right now.
phew.



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03 May 2007, 10:48 pm

lol, g'night fairytale :)



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03 May 2007, 10:52 pm

I interpret textbook syndrome as people reading about something,seeing symtoms and then getting into their heads that they"have it" AS for example.
Its a dangerous thing to do,as some symtoms may be common in more than AS for example.
It can also cause alot of confusion when a person starts reading about several different syndromes and seeing symtoms from all of them.
Too add to the confusion,its also very common for people to have certain symtoms of syndrome but so mild that there isnt even any reason to believe the persons has ANY syndrome at all.
These would be the dangers with self diagnosing the way I see it,and its as people say.
If you look for something hard enough,you'll find it.
Its the same thing with AS:
However,in cases where OTHER people point it out,its time to start thinking about it.
Me ,personally didnt,because I went on and on about how everyone else was wrong instead....and then came to my senses*LOL*



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03 May 2007, 10:55 pm

so like, the people who do the little online test then pour themselves into research, find the criteria and exaggerate it for themselves to deem it "appropriate" for their test score would be like that? Of course, it would be flawless too, no little extras here and there on symptoms because they don't know anything outside of the book, or have distorted views of what the criteria says just to force it to fit them?

by the way, I still feel like an idiot for having to have asked that in the first place, lol



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03 May 2007, 11:07 pm

Umm,Im just trying to see both perspectives here.

Online tests can be positive but also can be dangerous if people look too deep into the questions and give AS answers even when they are not sure.
What Im saying is that there may be subtle differences between NT and AS and if overexagerated,will come out as AS.
I mean,there might be 20 things on there that NTs have done once or twice in maybe a year and Aspies do about 20 times a week but because the NT HAS done it once or twice in a year,they automatically assume that they should answer that question yes.
I mean,alot of people might have symtoms similar to AS and experience them every now and then,but when experienced on a regular basis and to the point it inteferes with everyday life,then its a different thing.

Im not saying you dont have it by the way :-) Just trying to see the other perspective and erxplain it from there.



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03 May 2007, 11:10 pm

oh no, that's fine-I didn't take that personal at all, lol, these are things that happen every single day, I'm just a questioner when I don't understand things right from the get go, and always have been because I like things to make sense, lol.... that's really all there is to it, I just like things to make sense-I just wish it wasn't so complicated for me to make sense of some things that should be so freakin easy at times :(

lol, and I don't get why someone would answer yes just because something happened a few times, or that they can't remember for sure, but they think so and so commented on it once in a while XD

When I decided to start going to therapy was when I realized that whatever this thing is, is interfering with my every day life and family big time :( We've got some real issues going on in our house with communication problems and anxiety levels, my son has behavioral probs in school, etc. (and therapist pretty much confirmed that my son has it but said to take him for an assessment anyway), and I could go into everything we go through every day :) but I won't, and I get what you're saying, lol.

Rest assure I'm just a chronic thinker and can never stop, that's why I ask so many questions and read into things so much. I get an answer to one thing, then want to make sure it's right, so I in turn, question it again, but with my idea of what I'm getting out of it, and it goes on and on usually.



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03 May 2007, 11:13 pm

Yeah,get that too,frustration on a higher level*L*
Ok crap I need to go to bed now*sighs*
G'night,talk to ya later:-)



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04 May 2007, 2:36 am

I am self-diagnosed AND a teenager and I have something to say on this subject.

I did not diagnose myself because I was depressed at a certain time- yes I become depressed and anxious a lot but they are short-lived and generally, I'm not sad the majority of the day. I came upon the subject of AS on wikipedia. I was reading about genetics... and one of the pages led me to autism... I thought that although I was very bad at social situations, had obsessions, unnecessary movements as my mom puts it (nail-biting, rocking, running, etc), and sensitivity to some things, I did not have any speech delay. Then as I scrolled through the page I came across AS. When I read it, I put a %5 chance that I might have it. The next days I searched for autism and AS as well as genetics in search engines. I read a LOT of pages with symptoms and took a few quizzes... but even now, while my level of certainty about having AS is very high, it is not 100%... I know a lot about psychology, neurology and other things that can cause social differences and oddities, and out of them, AS seems to best describe my type of oddity. However my knowledge in this area isn't complete. I know a lot, but I don't know everything.

I think that the chances of a formal diagnosis being correct is higher than a self-diagnosis, but they both have a chance of being right; or wrong. I think it cannot be known for certain, for a 100% chance that someone has AS or not until a fundamental difference in the genetic or cerebral make-up of Aspies and NTs is discovered, one that applies to everybody. If I am tested one that way, one day, if it turns out positive, it'll show that my self-diagnosis was right; if it turns out negative, I'll start reading every psychological and neurological book until I find something else that can describe me.

But, until that happens, I find AS to explain me better than anything else I know about.



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04 May 2007, 3:12 am

I don't think one can make a judgment about anyone here just because they call themselves self-diagnosed or not. It's going to be a while before any research, so far as I can tell, is able to tell what percentage of people who rank high on the online self-tests are actually Aspie. Certainly there will be people who aren't, but as has been said on this thread, you can only tell by getting to know a person. And that is something we have the privilege to do, here, because of the way we share.

I've described myself as self-diagnosed, but that's because I'm pending a professional assessment, and I feel pretty confident that it's going to diagnose me with Asperger's. I wouldn't even be insisting on the assessment if I didn't think I was either definitely Aspie, or that there was something similar going on that needs to be figured-out. The Aspie descriptions on the Internet, my really high scores on the self-diagnostics, and more than anything the similarities between what I've read and all the things about my life that have confused me are what led me here, and to seek a formal diagnosis. My therapist is finding out who to get me in touch with, at the moment. I go to my county mental health center (a very good one, luckily for me). She says that so far as she knows the in-house psychologist has only had occasion to diagnose kids, but that she also knows a number of parents of Aspie kids have turned-out to be highly similar & not formally diagnosed because they function pretty well out in the world but definitely have Aspie traits to varying extents. I do know from my caseworker that if the county mental health people don't feel qualified to deal with it, that the university medical center has a dept. that works specifically with autistic/Aspie people, and is very good. I'm very glad I live someplace where I have these resources nearby & I don't have to wait a year to see someone; I know that's not the case for a lot of people here.



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04 May 2007, 3:17 am

DXes don't matter.

You are aspie if you feel aspie.


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