MrMark wrote:
Horus wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Horus wrote:
....must we sexualize everything in this society?
Is there some need to sexualize developmental disorders now too?
It's done with cancer, too. The number one cancer that kills women is skin cancer, yet the cancer that's everywhere to 'raise awareness' is breast cancer... a form of cancer that women rarely die from these days. Why? Boobs are sexy.
I am aware of that....it's done with EVERYTHING and that's the problem. I personally think it's a sad commentary on this society. Why must humans insist upon constantly wallowing with the apes? Must this base, vulgar, hedonistic nihilism worm it's way into everything? Must we always appeal to the most animalistic and crude instincts in humans in order to get them to become aware of anything? There is something profoundly disturbing about a society which even sexualizes and thus, trivializes, human suffering. I realize that plenty of people with AS don't feel they suffer from it in any appreciable way. But that's simply not the case with everyone.
We might as well have a "girls who survived auschwitz" calender.
Sex has been used to sell since the 18th century. Seems to me to take advantage of the male libido. What would a "girls who survived auschwitz" calender be selling or promoting? Doesn't exactly strike me as an appropriate analogy.
Anyway, the calandar never got produced. The 'prudes' won out over the 'perverts.' Nobody's said anything new here that hasn't been said before in this thread. I posted the news item because I thought it would be of interest. I posted it here because I thought it was relevant, and there's some historical value to this discussion. I also posted it in Autism Politics, Activism, and Media Representation, where it hasn't generated nearly as much interest.
Sex sells.
It is called Marketing, and I see here that the Sexist point of view is alive and well. Radical Holeism is in full attack mode, "We will define what We will allow, or condem."
It is the same that is condemed when Autism Speaks does it, Taking an idea, and making it the worst possible. They had an autistic little girl, with lots of adults, lights, cameras, flashes, noise, in a strange place, to shoot footage about her mother throwing her off a bridge. They put her in the worst possible light, for the "Movement" is the most important thing. Give her lots of liquids, do not let her use the bathroom, then bright lights and loud noises will have her peeing on herself on camera.
To a reasonable suggestion that we should try some marketing ourselves, such as show the real faces of Autism, Most Librarians, with those hottie glasses, teachers, women in Tech, the educated who excel beyond the limited views expressed by Autism Speaks, or the "It's all Sexploitation!" set, gets compared to the bodies of dead girls at Auschwitz?
It shows a lack of rational thinking, and when they have no real thoughts, invoking Nazis is the last refuge of failed ideas.
What is before us is the Image of Autism, and it is known that the German movie"Lives not worth living," was the model for Autism Speaks Marketing. That moved public oinion, and made the rest possible.
Talking history, since it has been brought up, Asperger saying, "A little autism is needed to excel in the arts and sciences." Was the other end of the range of public perception. The first image was people we can do without, Asperger showed that autism in it's milder forms was well represented at Universities, in the Arts, Engineering, and was in fact an important part of human progress.
Leaving Media to the other sides, Fund Raisers, Diversity Unions, Quacks, is not a good idea.
Here that is countered with Issac Newton, Tesla, Bill Gates, with many more in the Arts.
This message is not getting to the public, and public perception, which is always wrong, is the only important thing in a democratic system.
The message is the reason we have Detention Centers, using electroshock, over medication with drugs that have never been approved for autism, and a public view that there is hope for the ret*d, but not for the autistic.
At the same time, many reports that the autistic look younger than their years, and have a very unworldly beauty. Autism is Tech, The Patent Office is the Aspie Homeland, and they do lead in Arts, Music, Science, Engineering. We could have better press, but no one can make money giving it to us.
I second the call for better Public Relations.
Some are doing their part, a dear child who grew up here has been winning pagents, she is the face of autism, and in her victory, she got some of the above from here, that she was being a sex object, and selling out the Movement. She is an Art Object, a young woman in pink and frills, who has many talents.
She has a future, unlike the venom spitting harpies who attack her.
A second reason I support the idea of Public Relations using females is, when I came to this site a ratio of 5-1 to 10-1 was considered the male/female ratio. Half the posters on Wrong Planet were female.
Males are overserved as Auties, and females underserved as people. Tony Attwood and others did pick up on this, the criteria for autism in females is being reviewed, and is reaching the same view, same rate of autism, different presentation.
While males have a long history of treatment that should be abolished, females have a long history of total neglect.
Autism, pink and frilly, winning a Pagent, is our message. We need to share our world view, and mine is, hair up, wearing glasses, holding a stack of books, is Hot!
As for the message that all men are oppresive, rapist, murders, at least 51% are not, and we need Public Relations. This is an Autism Site, the sex wars have their own forums.
If there is a sex theme to autism, it is asexual. Most reports show less sex that the general population, and the sex driven around here seems to be hunting, or looking for the weak to attack.
For it, or against it, they speak of sex, where autism has a wider range of thought.
Sex happens, to some, but all will grow up, and have to make their way in an alien world. Good Public Relations can help.
The floor was open for better ideas about how we can change public perception of autism.
Of particular concern is getting girls and women the services they need. If Rabid Femminism worked the problem would have ended forty years ago. When all debate gets reduced to the hole in your bottom, and how everyone is a Nazi, it does not matter what the subject was.
The subject is what can we do to improve the public perception of autism, which is the single most important thing for the lives of millions. As long as "The News" is produced by others, all of our chances for a better life are reduced.
12 Jul 2010, 8:23 pm
