So I posted in the infamous AS partners forum for NT's...

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10 Feb 2015, 3:54 pm

I think the forum should be renamed to Ass Partners or Abuse/Neglect Partners. I am sure their men are truly horrible as they describe them to be.


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10 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

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I think the forum should be renamed to Ass Partners or Abuse/Neglect Partners. I am sure their men are truly horrible as they describe them to be.


You may be correct on this one. It doesn't mean that they're always peaches and roses though.



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10 Feb 2015, 4:05 pm

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My MY....
You all just can't stop it can you.
Again... you bring our forum to your dump.

( swear word ) you all.

Stay out of OUR page because you are not learning anything.
And then Juno thinks it's ok to fake a name and write.

This is why we don't like you. You don't let us have our own opinion.
That is a page for us n/t. Of course you don't get it. Read and learn or leave us the heck alone.

You all always write such vile crap. Now you know we advocate LEAVING. Because many of you turn out this way. Hating. Writing hateful crap.

Stay off our n/t page. Leave us alone.
Stop linking US here. If we want to be here we will.

I am a member here and listed as an n/t.
I refer others to this forum is they want to read and understand more about Asperger people. To meet others asp. people. I do it in kind. I am trying to help others.

I logged in because I sent a msg to someone here that is asp. Then I see the AS Partner page commented on again! Leave us alone.

You just hate... sigh.



I am going to sit back and appreciate the irony of this post. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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10 Feb 2015, 4:09 pm

DestinedToBeAPotato wrote:
dana2090 wrote:
My MY....
You all just can't stop it can you.
Again... you bring our forum to your dump.

( swear word ) you all.

Stay out of OUR page because you are not learning anything.
And then Juno thinks it's ok to fake a name and write.

This is why we don't like you. You don't let us have our own opinion.
That is a page for us n/t. Of course you don't get it. Read and learn or leave us the heck alone.

You all always write such vile crap. Now you know we advocate LEAVING. Because many of you turn out this way. Hating. Writing hateful crap.

Stay off our n/t page. Leave us alone.
Stop linking US here. If we want to be here we will.

I am a member here and listed as an n/t.
I refer others to this forum is they want to read and understand more about Asperger people. To meet others asp. people. I do it in kind. I am trying to help others.

I logged in because I sent a msg to someone here that is asp. Then I see the AS Partner page commented on again! Leave us alone.

You just hate... sigh.



I am going to sit back and appreciate the irony of this post. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Me too - seems to be a bit of overblown sense of entitlement going on there. Not that that is inconsistent with the other hallmarks of that site, projection etc



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10 Feb 2015, 4:31 pm

http://forums.delphiforums.com/ASPartne ... es/13483/1

More Hasty Generalizations and Lumping a whole group together.



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10 Feb 2015, 4:36 pm

OMG the gross and ignorant generalisations - "they are all like this" - look at the demonization and how they reinforce this disordered thinking in each other. Sick, sick, sick...



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10 Feb 2015, 4:37 pm

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Whether or not it's accurate to call it a "hate site" is debatable. But I think it's hard to deny that much of what they say is likely to foster hatred against us. Imagine the above quotes being levelled at an ethnic minority or a group of immigrants. Do you think it would be just? Do you think it would be tolerated?

Yes, but ethnicity does not effect social cognition, autism does. Our disability effects the part of us that is needed for relationships.


People who are prejudiced against particular ethnic groups, or other cultural groups, might very well argue that being who they are does affect their social cognition and their ability to have relationships. In fact, that's usually the very foundation of prejudice against minority groups - that they are somehow inferior human beings, with an impaired ability to relate to other humans, and therefore shouldn't socialize or reproduce with other humans.

Yes, autism involves social impairments. But that does NOT justify provoking prejudice or hate against autistic people. And it does NOT justify portraying autistic people as incapable of having relationships. Having a disability does not equate to a complete lack of ability, or lack of worthiness or value in any context.

Many other disabilities and disorders also involve impairments that specifically impact relationships. Actually, think about it, pretty much ANY disability, disorder, disease, etc. is going to impact a relationship in some way. There are many good reasons why people in such relationships do need support groups and other resources to help them.

Some of the people who go to AS Partners, having no idea what it's really about, are not just looking for a place to vent. They are looking for genuine support and information to help strengthen the relationship, or get through a rough patch. Instead, from their first posts they are immediately confronted with a barrage of warnings that they should just end it now because things will only get worse. They say this knowing very little about the actual situation and never having met either partner. That is nothing but blatant prejudice.



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10 Feb 2015, 4:46 pm

dianthus wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Whether or not it's accurate to call it a "hate site" is debatable. But I think it's hard to deny that much of what they say is likely to foster hatred against us. Imagine the above quotes being levelled at an ethnic minority or a group of immigrants. Do you think it would be just? Do you think it would be tolerated?

Yes, but ethnicity does not effect social cognition, autism does. Our disability effects the part of us that is needed for relationships.


People who are prejudiced against particular ethnic groups, or other cultural groups, might very well argue that being who they are does affect their social cognition and their ability to have relationships. In fact, that's usually the very foundation of prejudice against minority groups - that they are somehow inferior human beings, with an impaired ability to relate to other humans, and therefore shouldn't socialize or reproduce with other humans.

Yes, autism involves social impairments. But that does NOT justify provoking prejudice or hate against autistic people. And it does NOT justify portraying autistic people as incapable of having relationships. Having a disability does not equate to a complete lack of ability, or lack of worthiness or value in any context.

Many other disabilities and disorders also involve impairments that specifically impact relationships. Actually, think about it, pretty much ANY disability, disorder, disease, etc. is going to impact a relationship in some way. There are many good reasons why people in such relationships do need support groups and other resources to help them.

Some of the people who go to AS Partners, having no idea what it's really about, are not just looking for a place to vent. They are looking for genuine support and information to help strengthen the relationship, or get through a rough patch. Instead, from their first posts they are immediately confronted with a barrage of warnings that they should just end it now because things will only get worse. They say this knowing very little about the actual situation and never having met either partner. That is nothing but blatant prejudice.


Spot on Dianthus, thank you, especially that brilliant and concise first paragraph. These people are not just harmlessly venting - they are spewing up and spreading hate. HATE.



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10 Feb 2015, 4:50 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/ASPartners/messages/13483/1

More Hasty Generalizations and Lumping a whole group together.


Yep.

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Wow! Well said Sista! They truly are all alike.


Hey, you know what would be a riot...the crowd over at AS Partners should get together with the parents of some severely impaired autistic children...you know, the ones who dismiss the entire concept of high-functioning autism and believe the only people who have "real autism" are the ones who are impaired in exactly the same ways as their children.



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10 Feb 2015, 4:50 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/ASPartners/messages/13483/1

More Hasty Generalizations and Lumping a whole group together.

This woman who keeps going on about her ex Ash, is annoying. But I think she shows herself for what she is - a woman involved in a bitter divorce. It will be interesting to see how her thread goes.

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People who are prejudiced against particular ethnic groups, or other cultural groups, might very well argue that being who they are does affect their social cognition and their ability to have relationships.

In that case it would be because of the prejudice rather then the symptoms of the condition.

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...Yes, autism involves social impairments. But that does NOT justify provoking prejudice or hate against autistic people.

No and comments like "they are all like this" are scary. But I still can‘t begrudge them their voice.



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10 Feb 2015, 4:57 pm

Being truly adult and mature means exercising "voice" in a responsible way (with rare exceptions when ranting is appropriate and relatively privately necessary, no-one is a saint). But hate speech especially the broken record type is an utter perversion of free speech, that dark underbelly where evil seeks to spread itself, and adds nothing at all that is of value to life, people, society and especially minorities.



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10 Feb 2015, 5:06 pm

androbot01 wrote:
dianthus wrote:
People who are prejudiced against particular ethnic groups, or other cultural groups, might very well argue that being who they are does affect their social cognition and their ability to have relationships.

In that case it would be because of the prejudice rather then the symptoms of the condition.


Going by the majority of comments written there, either they don't actually understand the symptoms of the condition to begin with, and/or they don't understand that autistic impairments can vary widely from one person to another. They have formed opinions of autistic people on the whole, as a group, without considering individual variances and differences. That is in fact the very definition of prejudice.



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10 Feb 2015, 5:12 pm

And bigotry. Double whammy...



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10 Feb 2015, 5:13 pm

Alright, I'll have to review my calculus. Even my Mom agrees with you guys.



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10 Feb 2015, 5:20 pm

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dianthus wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
Whether or not it's accurate to call it a "hate site" is debatable. But I think it's hard to deny that much of what they say is likely to foster hatred against us. Imagine the above quotes being levelled at an ethnic minority or a group of immigrants. Do you think it would be just? Do you think it would be tolerated?

Yes, but ethnicity does not effect social cognition, autism does. Our disability effects the part of us that is needed for relationships.


People who are prejudiced against particular ethnic groups, or other cultural groups, might very well argue that being who they are does affect their social cognition and their ability to have relationships. In fact, that's usually the very foundation of prejudice against minority groups - that they are somehow inferior human beings, with an impaired ability to relate to other humans, and therefore shouldn't socialize or reproduce with other humans.

Yes, autism involves social impairments. But that does NOT justify provoking prejudice or hate against autistic people. And it does NOT justify portraying autistic people as incapable of having relationships. Having a disability does not equate to a complete lack of ability, or lack of worthiness or value in any context.

Many other disabilities and disorders also involve impairments that specifically impact relationships. Actually, think about it, pretty much ANY disability, disorder, disease, etc. is going to impact a relationship in some way. There are many good reasons why people in such relationships do need support groups and other resources to help them.

Some of the people who go to AS Partners, having no idea what it's really about, are not just looking for a place to vent. They are looking for genuine support and information to help strengthen the relationship, or get through a rough patch. Instead, from their first posts they are immediately confronted with a barrage of warnings that they should just end it now because things will only get worse. They say this knowing very little about the actual situation and never having met either partner. That is nothing but blatant prejudice.


Spot on Dianthus, thank you, especially that brilliant and concise first paragraph. These people are not just harmlessly venting - they are spewing up and spreading hate. HATE.


It even fits the criteria of a hate site. Disgusting.
http://www.report-it.org.uk/reporting_i ... hate_crime


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10 Feb 2015, 5:53 pm

Are younger members of wp more prone to making negative generalizations about nts?
I haven't felt that there is much difference in younger or older members having more of this tendency.


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