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24 Dec 2011, 6:00 am

Verdandi wrote:
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However, for clarification, what about "Disabled Military Veteran", considering it's considered a highly respected term in our culture, because the individual was disabled as a result of defending the country, do you think that specific phrase is okay? That seems to be a different context, that might warrant an exclusion.


I too receive government support for my disabilities, although not SSI yet. Still in appeal.

Anyway: Disabled military veteran is like disabled person. A veteran is a word for a kind of person (someone who was in the military and may have fought in one or more wars), so you're simply saying a particular kind of person. Similarly, disabled politician, disabled fireman, disabled lawyer, etc., although I don't see those very often. I also think that sometimes words like "disabled" are used in contexts where they are irrelevant, but that's another issue.

I do tend to think everyone should use it like I do, but really I can't (and don't want to) control everyone. Mostly I just want to be heard when I give my side. :)


Thanks, I see your point on the lawyer and the politician, and agree with your general point.

I agree to disagree with you :) on the disabled military veteran phrase because it is a traditional time honored phrase that is used to respect and honor those that have sacrificed their inherent functional abilities in defense of the country.


Since I agreed with you that it's a usable phrase I don't understand what you're disagreeing with?

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They even receive special license plates for their vehicles in recognition for this sacrifice, labeled DMV.

In this one specific case, I'm not sure how else they could be described, that would properly honor this type of service.

My opinion is biased though, from working with the military for over 20 years, and seeing hundreds of ceremonies honoring these folks. :)


I have a similar bias. My ex and several family members have been in the military. I have not (although I did want to, I was convinced not to). World War II was a very intense special interest of mine for two years. I don't think we're disagreeing at all, I think something has been misunderstood.

If it was my comment about people using disabled to describe someone in situations in which it's out of context, I was referring to other things that had nothing to do with "disabled veteran."


Sorry, I believe I misunderstood one of your previous posts to suggest you were against the phrase "disabled people" as well as "the disabled" and felt the phrase "people with disabilities", was appropriate.

And, thought you were reinforcing that point with your comment about veterans, instead of pointing out that the word "veterans" was synonymous with "people", and actually acceptable to you.

Looking back at your post, I see now in your comment where you stated the phrase "people with disabilities" was preferable, didn't necessarily mean you personally were against the specific usage of "disabled people" over "people with disabilities", just that "people with disabilities" is preferable in a general sense, by those advocating for people with disabilities, if my understanding now, is correct. :)



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24 Dec 2011, 8:58 am

aghogday wrote:
Looking back at your post, I see now in your comment where you stated the phrase "people with disabilities" was preferable, didn't necessarily mean you personally were against the specific usage of "disabled people" over "people with disabilities", just that "people with disabilities" is preferable in a general sense, by those advocating for people with disabilities, if my understanding now, is correct. :)


Yes, that's it. Thanks. :)