Optimism and Reality: Goldfish21 Response to me

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Historygal said that too and I agree with you.

If he says he was diagnosed, I say so what. These diagnoses are frequently wrong.

WTF?

Seriously, wtf makes you say that?

Go and read my posting history over the last ~5-6 years. I'm as AS as the next guy on these forums. My posts 5 years ago were filled with all of the same complaints everyone else has here. My posts in recent times fluctuate a bit depending on how well I maintain my balance - sometimes I'm a little more ASD and post walls of text, especially in the last month or so as I was taking antibiotics for 5 weeks that mess with the probiotics I take as part of my treatment protocol. The difference as to why I'm more "NT presenting" is as I shared over 4 years ago - I figured out what was causing my symptoms to be so wild & off the charts ASD and even more importantly, how to treat it - and I've done so, and continue to do so.

I was, still am & always will be, ASD. It's simply that I'm ever higher functioning due to the treatments I do for myself. It does not affect me or my life one iota if you don't believe me.

My response to NTs:

1. Don't b***h about my being a welfare queen and personal responsibility.
2. Provide me enough to afford the cost of living and medical care.

Do these things and I will fade away into the night and you won't hear from me again.

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Questioning a members autism is probably against the no personal attack rule and that includes those who “self diagnose”. It should not be done anyway since you have no knowledge of the persons life before he joined WP or his non WP life beyound what he shares.

It is ok to be anti self diagnosis. It is not against the rules to say autism is overdignosed. As I discussed recently in another thread I find it offensive when people post stuff saying there are hordes of Aspie wannabes and wish that stuff was not posted on WP as often as they are. But those posts are expressing an opinion about an Autism subject in general and not expressing a negative judgement about a member thus should not be censored. Same with his choice of treatments.

Ok, I do have a problem then with self-diagnosis. There are SJWs out there who do this. When they do this and make the claim that there horrible behavior is a. because of my autism b. this is who I am. What happens is the rest of the world doesn't take autism/aspergers seriously. They see it as a fake disability and instead they see it as the person being entitled and spoiled. Truth is, we as autistics/aspies need assistance and guidance from the rest of the world. We need services desperately. We can't get services, assistance and guidance if our disability isn't taken seriously.

Right, it's not taken seriously if treated so casually.

I don't give a tinker's dam what someone's dx status is on here but I do question anyone suggesting supplements and exercise do away with ASD. It's logical for me to think something else was at play.

There seems to be a new coolness about ASD. Gee people when was the last time you saw someone self dx as a diabetic and run around exclaiming, "Hi guys, I'm Diabetes Dude....?"

You don't.

I think most people with a true ASD do want to get better because they want to have a better life and function. I think those out there who are just self diagnosed and don't want to bother getting a diagnoses just want an excuse and then they don't do anything about it. I am not talking about those who can't afford to get a diagnoses and don't have access to get help. Those people also want to get help too and I think they might get thrown into the group of those self diagnoses SJWs.

I am sure there are also people who also wrongly self diagnose and don't have the money to get a diagnoses and don't have access to get help but yet still manage to find ways to help themselves and they get better. But they don't fall under SJWs in my opinion because they are't using it as an excuse and not doing anything about it but I can understand the concern some true ASD people have about it.

Cubedemon is right about people using autism to excuse bad behavior and how hard is for people who really do struggle with autism to get help if their autism isn't taken seriously. Having autism is not cool at all. It doesn't just go away either. Symptoms can be managed, but that gets exhausting. I have worked hard to improve my social skills and communication, but NT communication and social rules are still alien to me. I still go to bed exhausted as hell every night. I do eat very healthy for the most part and exercise a lot. I wish I had access to more services that could help towards independence. If autism were taken more seriously, more services would be available to help me and others like me get driver's licences and full time jobs.

A common reason people oppose self diagnosing or diagnosing historical figures is that the person is diagnosing themselves or Einstein sans professional assessment often based on incomplete information. So I find it hypocritical to turn around and say this person is not autistic based on their Wrong Planet postings.

Most of us I think form opinions sometimes about WP members neurology. But those opinions should be kept to oneself unless you are specifically asked by the member for your opinion.

I understand your frustration about using autism to excusing bad behavior. That is why started the thread "Autism Defense Again" whereby I post incidents where autism is used to attempt to lesson punishment of criminal behavior.

Well this poster said he didn't have a dx and that he made his ASD go away by some regimen. I'm not apologizing for questioning it. I've never questioned anyone else. I always figured people came here because they needed to.

I simply suggested that there could be something else at play and directed the post to the person. There is nothing wrong with that.

Not likely to ever happen, not even here in Canada.

Mind you, regular welfare here is $690/mo for a single person - which is WELL below the poverty line. It's nearly impossible to rent anything for that, never mind eat. Disability pays over $1100/mo. Basic healthcare is covered by tax dollars - except for dental & maybe not vision. But doctors visits are covered, prescriptions are highly subsidized etc.

Anyways, the NT & capitalist world is NEVER going to make life easy & comfortable for those who cannot work. They'll give people enough to survive day to day but that's about it. The prevailing attitude is that if you Want it, go earn it, and if you can't earn it, you can't have it. Those who can earn can have more etc. That's it, that's all, that's all it likely ever will be.

So, it's reasonable in our society to be provided with enough to survive (which is getting REALLY hard here for a lot of people given the ASTRONOMICAL price of housing) but it's never ever going to change over to enough to truly Live & enjoy luxuries and finer things. The extremely poor & disabled learn to adapt and get the most out of life.

Some of my friends at the beach are extremely wealthy, others on welfare or disability, others working class, others actually homeless - some by circumstance, some by choice. But rich or poor they all enjoy the beach and the very giving community of people it attracts and it's really, truly, awesome. The poorest of the poor here enjoy the same Sun & sand as everyone else and life goes on even w/o financial security or a luxury budget. Certainly better than sitting in one's bedroom staring at 4 walls being frustrated about having no money. Truly learning to enjoy the things that don't cost money make it possible to enjoy life regardless of whether you have any money or not. Enjoying the best, free, things in life allows one to save & accumulate money, too, bit by bit - I know, I'm doing it.

Thank you, I appreciate this post.

I don't particularly dislike buddy's post, either. It's kinda funny to me. It does have value, though, as it serves to prove my point that if buddy above thinks I'm NT based on my recent posting history (vs. 5 years ago - go read my posts from then and you will say "DEFINITELY ASD") that the diet & treatment protocol I've put together for myself does in fact work to treat my ASD symptoms and allow me to operate as extremely high functioning. Those are simply the facts of my life & reality whether people here believe me or not. I'll continue being transparent about it because I Know how valuable & important it is.

Could you IMAGINE just for a moment that through circumstance, meeting just the right people, reading more than 10,000 pages and then spending a few years Doing that you found a way to treat & control ASD? You'd be stoked as f**k and wanting to share it with the ASD community, too. I'd imagine you'd also have a similar reaction to others' reactions as myself, too, like "Uh, I just shared THE single most important bit of medical knowledge an ASD person could ever DREAM of knowing and your reaction is "Nah, I call BS." instead of "Wow, I wanna try this for myself!"" - It's still just downright bizarre to me that the reaction here is so negative. It's not as if everyone here is HAPPY with their ASD symptoms and wouldn't want to treat them if they could. Those that are content, ok cool, but those that have complaints - wow - it's still just unreal to me that people aren't interested in improving themselves and their situation. But again, everyone's free to do as they wish and it's not going to affect My life one bit, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing and living a happier, healthier, much fuller life for it.

What's an SJW?

Just like to point out that there are plenty of people with an official diagnosis who use it as an excuse to be an as*hole, too. Sure, sometimes ASD DOES make people impulsively say/do things they shouldn't - that can be very real, but there are a lot of people who are just plain Jerks who use their ASD as an excuse, regardless of whether they have an official diagnosis or not. Being self diagnosed and extremely self aware of your own neurological makeup does Not make one prone to use it as an excuse for inexcusable behaviour, thank you very much.

Based on what?

What reason could I POSSIBLY have to create an account here, post VERY ASPIE posts for a year or two, learn how to treat ASD, do it, share it, then continue posting here to share my experiences of life as it is with ASD under control?

Really, truly, you think this is a ~6 year hoax that I started planning from birth & just started documenting on WP when I signed up? Bizarre!

Why is it reasonable to believe that medicine taken for ANY other condition, let's use a sorta closely related example like ADHD, can treat & manage the symptoms of it - but for some reason that defies logic you do not believe that taking certain medicine can possibly treat & manage the symptoms of ASD? How is it logical to conclude that something else is at play instead of the most rational straight line logic of cause and effect? Strong ASD symptoms --> Takes medicine --> Symptoms under control. This is the truth of my existence.

Again, I must ask, what incentive do I have to fabricate any of this? There's literally Nothing in it for me. I'm not selling anything. I'm not promoting any products or doctors' services. I'm not even running a blog page trying to make money from ad revenue or referrals selling probiotics & healthy foods etc. I'm simply relaying what I've learned & done for the benefit of all who suffer from the same ailments. That's it that's all. Disseminating the information to those who Need it most IS what's in it for me.