List one NT thing you do not understand.

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24 Nov 2009, 1:11 pm

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Faith.

I don't get it... how can you say you know something is true, when you don't actually have evidence or reason to say it is true?


Faith is not an NT thing exclusively (and I'm glad that it isn't). There are aspie believers in both Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and everything else, I think.
There are not so few Christian aspies here, or other believers.

I'm an aspie theologian myself. 8)


I've studied religion extensively, various christian denominations, their extension from judaism, aspects of islam, buddhism, druidic/wiccan type beliefs, ancient green and roman forms, norse gods, native american, mayan, aztec.

The problem I have is none of them posit anything like a logically consistent deity, and it hurts my head to try to pretend I don't see the holes in the existence of an all seeing all knowing all doing all powerful being that contains all things and is perfect in all ways, blah blah blah.


I know it isn't something Aspies don't possess at all, just as not all NT believe in various forms of gods.


It's just so prevalent in society, and to this day remains the thing I struggle with the most, nevermind the irresistible urge to correct claims regarding the physical Universe... didn't need a creator, that is a bad hypothesis. Try to explain this to someone, you're a heretic, or just don't know what you're talking about.

I'm like, hi, I read your books, I talked with your holy men, and I specialize in physics. I may seem like a heretic, but don't insult me because you don't like what I'm saying, disprove it if it's wrong!

T.T

Buddhism is interesting as a philosophy, ironic as a religion, as I'm quite certain the Buddha said to not worship him. I do see some parallels though in it's goals of enlightenment, and my own pursuit of intellectual enlightenment.

I don't worship knowledge though, that's silly, I delight in it.



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26 Nov 2009, 11:30 am

JustMax, maybe you should come to Denmark, here faith isn't very prevalent in society. There are not few politicians who want religion out of public space.



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26 Nov 2009, 12:21 pm

I'm not sure if this is because I'm an Aspie or because I'm a treehugger...but lawn mowing. If you want your grass to be a quarter of an inch long, why not just get astroturf and cut out the middle man?

I know that when I have my own house, I won't even own a lawn mower, and if my neighbors start complaining that I need to mow my lawn because it's three feet long, that's when I'll adopt a goat.

Grass killers. Bah!


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26 Nov 2009, 5:49 pm

Why people must keep hearing "I love you" or their name. Why can't they just toughen up and get used to it and keep telling themselves they don't need to hear those words and their names and tell their feelings to shut up like I did with mine for when I was overcoming my inflexibility.



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26 Nov 2009, 6:27 pm

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Yes! My husband (NT) and I had more fights because of this than anything else! I told him from day one that I don't play mind games and when I say something, I mean what I say and not something else. However, he does that NT thing I can't do, of reading into what I'd say. So, say our satellite TV would go out during a storm. I'd say, "Stupid satellite TV!" and he'd hear, "You're such an as*hole for switching us to satellite; only a moron like you would do that!" and yell at me in a fury.


I get this kind of thing with my husband all the time. The difference is that he doesn't yell at me, because that's not his style. In that situation, he'd put down his hot cup of tea, walk out of the room, and then a while later come back, all wet and exhausted , and say, "Well, I managed to get the satellite dish uninstalled like you wanted, but I won't be able to call the cable company until Monday morning, so if we want to watch anything, it'll have to be the Netflix disk. I've left a bit of a mess out there, because it's so dark and rainy. I hope that's alright."

(We don't actually have a satellite TV or cable, but it's a story that illustrates a typical scenario in which he reads a whole lot of stuff into a simple comment.)

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26 Nov 2009, 6:49 pm

You could write him some poetry to cheer him up.



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29 Jun 2010, 5:37 am

Chatting over the top of songs played in public spaces.

I don't understand the phenomenon of background music.

The songs seem to have an ambient function: to blot out reality and create atmosphere.
Most people are more interested in chatting to a friend than listening to the meaning of the song. I can't help but listen to the deep meaning and structure of the song. Hence, I find it very difficult to listen to a song and have a chat with someone at the same time. This means that Muzak muddles my mental arithmetic in a shop and causes me anxiety. I try to concentrate on buying an item, but end up concentrating on the lyrics and notes of the song instead.

Are people frightened of silence?

Also, many of the more meaningful popular songs are used to advertise products that are only superficially connected to the original meaning. Hence, the meanings of the songs become trivialised and associated with a brand name.

In religious and tribal cultures, I notice that music is not meant to be passively consumed. Music in these cultures seems to be more meaningful because it's an interactive community affair: not just background "noise".

Radio and popular commercial music, on the other hand, is designed to be passively consumed as products. The music is already made by the artist. The music can either be immitated or talked over as background noise.

I wonder what this kind of passivity and consumption of music does to communities?



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29 Jun 2010, 5:54 am

AmberEyes wrote:
Chatting over the top of songs played in public spaces.

I don't understand the phenomenon of background music.

The songs seem to have an ambient function: to blot out reality and create atmosphere.
Most people are more interested in chatting to a friend than listening to the meaning of the song. I can't help but listen to the deep meaning and structure of the song. Hence, I find it very difficult to listen to a song and have a chat with someone at the same time. This means that Muzak muddles my mental arithmetic in a shop and causes me anxiety. I try to concentrate on buying an item, but end up concentrating on the lyrics and notes of the song instead.

Are people frightened of silence?

Also, many of the more meaningful popular songs are used to advertise products that are only superficially connected to the original meaning. Hence, the meanings of the songs become trivialised and associated with a brand name.

In religious and tribal cultures, I notice that music is not meant to be passively consumed. Music in these cultures seems to be more meaningful because it's an interactive community affair: not just background "noise".

Radio and popular commercial music, on the other hand, is designed to be passively consumed as products. The music is already made by the artist. The music can either be immitated or talked over as background noise.

I wonder what this kind of passivity and consumption of music does to communities?



to the best of my understanding, silence has a certain "awkwardness" among people, and background music seems to help ease tension and make everything casual apparently.

You bring up a good point though.....and it's for this reason that I still find many popular procedures to be very questionable on the NT end.



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29 Jun 2010, 5:59 am

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Why do they need to shake hands when they meet/see someone? What the hell kind of significance does grabbing someone's hand have?

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29 Jun 2010, 6:55 am

Why do they need to talk to someone just because they're walking beside them or sitting with them? I recently heard some NTs complaining about people who are out together but talk on their phones. What's wrong with that? :?

Why do they not ask you for help, but expect you to help them anyway? My mum has done this with me more times than I can count. If you want help, ASK FOR IT. :x

Why does my mum tell me "you're acting Aspie" all the time? MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE I AM ONE! :roll:



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29 Jun 2010, 7:17 am

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Why do they not ask you for help, but expect you to help them anyway? My mum has done this with me more times than I can count. If you want help, ASK FOR IT. :x l:

Could it be that she's bored and tired of asking you?
I mean, you're not a toddler anymore so maybe she expects you to do things that she asked for many many times already.



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29 Jun 2010, 7:18 am

zena4 wrote:
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Why do they not ask you for help, but expect you to help them anyway? My mum has done this with me more times than I can count. If you want help, ASK FOR IT. :x l:

Could it be that she's bored and tired of asking you?
I mean, you're not a toddler anymore so maybe she expects you to do things that she asked for many many times already.


She dosen't ask, she just expects me to read her mind, that's the problem.



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29 Jun 2010, 7:26 am

:? So I guess that you'll have to think for yourself what has to be done.

... Don't you have someone else to ask? An aunt, a grandma, someone? Someone who could help you with this?

Or you could as well, if she's free and willing to do so with you, ask your mother what does she expect you to do on a daily or a week bases (for the time being).

You could write it down together and get some stickers on your own to remind you of doing them in time?
(That is, if it has something to do with daily life when she was angry with you.)



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29 Jun 2010, 7:51 am

I'd rather just go about my business, thanks. If anyone needs me, they can ask for me.



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29 Jun 2010, 8:27 am

*why do the all ways care about name brand clothing



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29 Jun 2010, 8:34 am

Most of the time, not always but often, it's easier to find good cuts and materials in brands.
Besides, when you know one well, it's also easier to find something that suits fine on you.