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06 May 2007, 6:29 pm

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Maybe I just want the diagnosis out of habit of needing it before I can do anything with it, considering I've been this way since I was 4 or 5, lol.


Well, sure, if a formal diagnosis would bring you peace of mind, then that would be a valid reason to get it.

BTW, nobodyzdream, your avatar really freaks me out. :D


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06 May 2007, 6:42 pm

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the only diff i see between yourself and what you deem an aspie poseur... is that you're willing to try and work with it... you said yourself, you blame the AS for some (random) problem just like you said the fakers blame stuff on AS.. that's no criteria for saying someone doesn't have AS... just a sh***y, slack-ass attitude...


My point was that some wanna-bes loudly proclaim their AS to everyone they know, and use it as an excuse to hide behind. "I can't do X because I have AS." If it wasn't AS, they'd find something else to pin it on. (Eg, my earlier reference to ADD/ADHD and bipolar depression.)

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and there are plenty of people both AS and no AS... that fit that profile


True enough.

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edit: you have to suspend the belief that: blame~explanation (but with a positive spin!)


i see your point... i still just don't think you should overemphasize the correlation between people blaming EVERYTHING on AS with aspie poseurs cause correlation does not = causation

as for the blame=explanation thing... i was just trying to negate and possiblity of you refuting my explanation based on a difference of diction (you said you explain problems with AS versus they blame problems with AS)

think we on same page though ^_^

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean...


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06 May 2007, 9:57 pm

lol, yeah, my avatar's been kinda givin me the creeps-at first I was thinking, wow, that looks kind of neat. Now I look at it and I'm like "do you have any idea how UNCOMFORTABLE that would be???"

I dunno what to change it to yet though :P



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06 May 2007, 10:18 pm

Silly me. I didn't even notice the zipper on the eye till Xenon mentioned the avatar being disturbing. Otherwise, it's lovely.



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06 May 2007, 10:25 pm

lol, getting on that one :P lookin up avatars as we speak :D

I didn't mind it until I was gone for the weekend, since I came back (this morning) every time I look at it, it makes my eyes itch.



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06 May 2007, 10:42 pm

Hey, don't change the avatar just for me. :D


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06 May 2007, 10:49 pm

nah, if it's disturbing 2 people, that's enough reason to look into other options. When MY OWN EYES are hurting because of it, it's a MUST, lol.



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07 May 2007, 7:27 am

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nah, you're fine, lol-while I'm saying I want the diagnosis just so I know for sure, I feel like a weirdo on here, lol. I'm about 99% positive I have AS, but for some reason I just need that official thing.

I really don't know why-I know I can look stuff up, and if I think I am, what's stopping me, right? ...and if I'm that sure, it shouldn't be a problem at all. I really don't get it, but that's why, lol.

But then again, I'm like that with EVERYTHING I do... I just need it for sure, I'll drive to the same place over and over and over, but if I don't have my map, I'm afraid of making a wrong turn somewhere and winding up not knowing how to get back. When I clean, I have to have something written or someone there to tell me what to do next.

Maybe I just want the diagnosis out of habit of needing it before I can do anything with it, considering I've been this way since I was 4 or 5, lol.


:D
it's probably a good sign, it means you have met a lot of (professional)people you can trust i guess,

(i haven't, so many teachers, doctors,therapists, familymembers etc that have messed with me, (not physically that is, but psychologically, and i don't mean they had bad intentions)
that at some point i thought life was just worthless, but i have learned that my behaviour colours other people's behaviour too, especially when you're intelligent, people set a high behaviour standard which i've been unable to follow of course, clueless as i often am)



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07 May 2007, 7:36 am

lol, sad thing is... I don't even trust my gp. I do trust this psych a bit though-I go to him through a college thing, a community psychology program. So every time we meet, it's recorded, then other people can view it, and point out things he missed, or he can review it and listen better to it than being in the room at times maybe. Then, there's a supervisor on top of it too, so between all the people that review this thing, he can get way more information collectively than just sitting in the room with me I'd think.



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07 May 2007, 7:44 am

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lol, sad thing is... I don't even trust my gp. I do trust this psych a bit though-I go to him through a college thing, a community psychology program. So every time we meet, it's recorded, then other people can view it, and point out things he missed, or he can review it and listen better to it than being in the room at times maybe. Then, there's a supervisor on top of it too, so between all the people that review this thing, he can get way more information collectively than just sitting in the room with me I'd think.


hope it is a possitive psych then,
i remember school psychs being fascinated by my way of reasoning but i'd always back off whenever they came too close (suggesting hypnosis for exemple, with only one man in a room (the psych), i just didn't trust it)



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07 May 2007, 8:19 am

mine is very comfortable to talk to about most things, I'm always uncomfortable because he'll be trying to ask questions and I can't seem to shut up about whatever I was talking about before. But first impressions.... He just kind of lets me run the show. Every time I go in there I have something new I want to talk about, so he drops whatever he's asking about from the week before, etc., easily. He doesn't seem to mind it or anything, and I know he wants to be super cautious about it because he has so many people to talk to.

I guess I don't necessarily trust him so much, but I want to be able to clear up communication probs in my house/relationship a bit, and have no other options-can't afford any others and medicaid here pffft, lol, so I'm stuck. I either go in and talk about stuff and accept what he says or I don't do anything at all.

I figure with that many people overviewing it-at least 5 people, someone's bound to catch something, someone else might make a connection between 2 things. I hate the idea of someone picking me apart and all, but this is just causing enough problems in the house to where I need it. I don't have much of a choice when it comes to what is best for my kiddos.



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07 May 2007, 8:21 am

I grew up with people saying stuff like 'you have to know how to speak Tyler' and stuff like that. I can't tell the you the vast amout of analytical judgments I've made about myself over the years trying to figuare out why I am the way I am. When I found AS every single one them was referenced. I certainly don't lack social skills (except on my bad days. Does everyone with AS have there good days, there bad days, or immediate jump between the two states?) but as Xenon said I have no idea what's going on in other's heads. I'm empathetic but I never know what to be empathetic about if they don't tell me. Half of the time I can understand where they're coming from and feel for them. The other half of the time I don't see what the big deal is or can't see how much something is really bothering them.

Anyways, back on topic

While talking about AS to other's, they insist on fully relating to everything I say and makes me doubt it. That's not everybody though. My closest friends weren't the least bit surprised. I forgot to mention to my bandmate that AS was a part of the autistic spectrum so I didn't really get any reaction from him. I couldn't figuare out why he was blowing off my concerns. About a week later he asked if it was at all connected to autism. Then I saw the light flick on for him. Now he understands.

Should I get diagnosed? I'm not sure. I don't want to be told I'm normal because I know I'm not and it will drive me crazy to have to go back to the constant analyzing of everyone of my actions and everything that happens to me trying to figuare it out or rise above it. It's nice to have some understanding of myself with AS.


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07 May 2007, 8:26 am

I think I'm going to try to get an assessment and kind of "push" it along, lol. My therapist is being slow-well, it's only been 6 visits, but I hate waiting to find out either way. At least if we do an assessment, he can look at it a bit clearer, ya know? Rather than asking all of these pointless questions and trying to use examples that obviously are not working with me.



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07 May 2007, 9:40 am

nobodyzdream wrote:
nah, if it's disturbing 2 people, that's enough reason to look into other options. When MY OWN EYES are hurting because of it, it's a MUST, lol.


hey i LIKED it!! !! !! !! !!

reminded me of aeon flux.... good cartoon/movie


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23 Jan 2010, 9:35 pm

Unusual interests, both in intensity and type

Sorry to bump up an old thread my NT Buddie did a little research on AS his words

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The *ing arrogance that exists exists in the medical profession who is to say what is "unusual" or "age appropriate." he made me :lol: now I :wink: in agreement.

My "unusual" AS hobbies from my childhood are now firmly :roll: entrenched in the main stream eg video gaming, electronic/dance music. :)



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24 Jan 2010, 12:47 am

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Unusual interests, both in intensity and type

Sorry to bump up an old thread my NT Buddie did a little research on AS his words

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The *ing arrogance that exists exists in the medical profession who is to say what is "unusual" or "age appropriate." he made me :lol: now I :wink: in agreement.

My "unusual" AS hobbies from my childhood are now firmly :roll: entrenched in the main stream eg video gaming, electronic/dance music. :)

Yeah, that's quite the bump there, buddy. However something bothers me about the OP and I haven't read through the thread to determine whether someone else has addressed it. People who self-diagnose have access to information on the disorder, they know themselves, and they have relatives/friends/associates who can provide necessary input. You have to admit that at least a minority have a clue what they are doing. However, we are supposed to take the advice of some random stranger on the internet who tells you that you can't have what you have unless a doctor says so (an appeal to authority). Was there no cancer before doctors noticed it? And also what about those who reject formal diagnoses and through their own research find new diagnoses which more accurately describe them, despite the possibility of lacking formal medical training?