Use of the word "autism"

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Yes, you're right. Speech may or may not be present, if it is, aspects of it are delayed. Not sure if you know this already (DSM-IV-TR excerpt), if you don't then maybe the following interests you:

At that age, I more philosophied than played... Also, my play was rather abnormal when it did occur... It wasn't play, it was real in every way to me... I was pretty delusional at that age up until about age 8... At age 8 I wasn't quite as delusional, and no longer believed my fantasies to be real in every way. At age 4 or 5 I really was a scientist, and really did have a cure for cancer, and so believed in it I was practically demanding that I be taken to a research centre to share my cure with the world.

I say "autism" to include the whole spectrum. I am diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome but I do consider myself autistic.

Am do not understand why ASDers try to seperate the spectrum,it adds more power to the ignorants who only see us in the stereotypes,which is what they were trying to get away from,it just keeps it going.
just because are being associated with autism,doesn't mean are one of the stereotypes people use,am LFA and come across more one size fits all stereotypes of LFA on here than offline from people who have no form of autism,so it isnt just the regular unaware ignorant in the steet that adds to the unrealistic perceptions of 'autism'.
understanding is needed-all on the spectrum have things in common and not in common with others regardless of functioning but it doesnt help by comparing only obvious signs.
being a strong force by pulling together-not against,it's ok if do not want to be associated with a head banger,or a poo smearer,or a non verbal screaming room trasher but dont think are so seperated from Autism stereotypes,go into a LD/DD residential home and will find 'severe' aspies who have some of the same traits and behaviors as well.

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AS isn't mild autism, it's a totally different type of neurological variation but it has some similarities. Autism is first hand neurological while AS is invisible even on EEG and scans, it can't be physically seen. AS and autism have some similarities but they aren't closely related. I think the "spectrum" is BS.

Saying "I'm autistic" if you have AS is like saying "I have cancer" if you have leukemia.

Leukemia:
malignant neoplasm of blood-forming tissues; characterized by abnormal proliferation of leukocytes; one of the four major types of cancer

I just lost respect for you right there and then.

Some Aspies/autistics cannot help talking with a monotone, lack of rhythm, or other abnormality. It doesn't make them bad people, or somehow more cowardly or less dignified. It doesn't mean they are less capable of contributing to society. It means they have an abnormal way of talking, no more than that. There is someone who I have a lot of respect for, who has one of those abnormalities. He talks awkwardly as if some of his mouth muscles were weakened. This guy is also very civic minded, helps out a lot at community events, holds down a normal job, and takes me mountain biking with him for nothing just because I said I was interested in it. You think he's less worthy of respect? f**k you. Die. I'm automatically loyal to other AS'ers unless they actively do something to not deserve it, but I have no loyalty for you.

Oh, guess what else?

I was one of those in my early adolescence. I walked with an abnormal, this-way-and-that gait. I also tended to tense around my eyes in such a way that I looked angry even when I wasn't; it was just how I naturally moved. I had to deliberately unlearn those behaviours. You want to disrespect me for that? You go ahead and disrespect me, and if I ever see you lying in the road bleeding, I'll walk past, turn up the music on my headphones, and pretend your dying hemorrhaging body isn't there.



Rubbish.

I knew a HFA girl and she seemed entirely normal except for intense interests, literalism and delayed sleep phase syndrome. She could have been my doppelganger. I don't have HFA.

Quite. Cancer is characterised by uncontrolled and "improper" cell growth, the formation of tumours is not a necessity, and there are in any case many varieties of leukaemia.

I can see similarities between myself and others with AS but I see absolutely no similarity what so ever between me and an autist.

I'm clearly not autistic. I have AS and I'm different, not autistic. Autism is a brain damage which can be seen on scans and EEG. On my tests nothing ever showed. Is there a point in categorizing AS as "autistic"? Does it serve any purpose what so ever? For me it doesn't.

you would almost think that Zoonic is posting derogatory messages about sensitive subjects on newsgroups and chat rooms just to bait users into responding.

I think you're way too personally coloured in your role as a moderator. You have previously openly threatened me in threads where you made comments which had nothing to do with the topic at all. I checked around and your name also came up a lot, no other moderator is even mentioned but there has apparently been several people who view you as unfit because you bring your feminist obsession into every possible discussion and start threatening people based on that. Many seem to be unhappy with you as a moderator and have complained to others, this is what I've been told and what I found out by searching around.

If you make accusations against me you open yourself up as a target for accusations yourself. You don't like my views and you start implying things like that. If it wasn't for your earlier row of threats, that I had the "wrong agenda" and whatever, I wouldn't even care but I see what others say about you is true.

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If you can't see similarities between classic autism and AS then you must be blind.

Please name a few "similarities" and I'll check if they apply to me.

That is exactly what I was talking about, Zoonic. Posting derogatory messages about sensitive subjects on newsgroups and chat rooms just to bait users into responding.

Taken from the criteria for both Autism and Asperger's syndrome:

- Marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction.

- Failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level.

- A lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people

- Lack of social or emotional reciprocity.

- Encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus.

- Apparently inflexible adherence to specific, non-functional routines or rituals.

- Stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms.

- Persistent preoccupation with parts of objects.