What are 'NTs'?

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One probelm with the herding instinct defining NTs: I know several 'NTs' who don't form into cliques/herds/etc. As I said in another post, perhaps humanity is better grouped into followers, leaders, and those who are neither (in social things). 'NTs' as complained about here would fit the follower or leader types, and Aspies would tend to fall into the 'neither' category, not being led or leading.

One probelm with the herding instinct defining NTs: I know several 'NTs' who don't form into cliques/herds/etc. As I said in another post, perhaps humanity is better grouped into followers, leaders, and those who are neither (in social things). 'NTs' as complained about here would fit the follower or leader types, and Aspies would tend to fall into the 'neither' category, not being led or leading.

Just to clarify, I never said the herding instinct defines NTs. I said it is supposedly a neurotypical trait that I think many AS and ASD are capable of having themselves. In other words, I think it is part of human instinct that AS tend to handle a little different than NT.

Also keep in mind there is more to the herding instinct than small groups. People change from going to small groups to big groups, and so does that instinct. Look at technology. How many people now have cell phones? I promise you I was alive 15 years ago, and it was something only the rich had. Cells were total luxuries. Now a days, they are necessities. Not because of pricing so much as everybody has one. It's more than just wanting what someone else has. There are just certain things many people want because they don't want to be left out. This is just one lousy example that I came up with from the top of my mind. A better one might be cussing. Most people say it's bad and have no idea why. It's the social norm we blindly follow. That doesn't mean we don't cuss, but many on here will try to clean up their language for children..even Aspies do it. That's something we do because we are strictly following the herd. Nobody knows why the words are bad. They just accept that they are. I've even seen some people speculate on this forum if torture was socially acceptable and normal that everybody would be doing it. You see that in times of the Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, Salem Witch Trials, etc. Things were normal back then that wouldn't be normal now, and everybody was doing it. Some feared death of course, but many were just blindly following the herd on it.

Neurotypical to me means someone who blends in well, has a lot of job offers without even applying, has several marriage proposals and turned most of them down, is wanted at several parties, cookouts, events over the weekend, has several weekend event offers the biggest dilemma being which ones to go to since the weekend is only 48 hours, sometimes 72, always likes to have their picture taken, is never short on cash or friends, and is happy most the time.
They tend to be superficial and sorta shallow. They are intensely focused on other people and what they are doing.

Only celebrities fit this profile. And even they have to do a lot of career maintenance if they don't want the job offers to dry up.

Can't we just describe 'NTs' as 'shallow people who have to find their identity in other people'? I know that means that a lot of 'NTs' won't be NTs any longer... perhjaps we need a new word - bluepills.

There are plenty of people who have this kind of life. It's common. It's what's considered to be "normal" and not a lifestyle of a priviledged type like a celebrity. Many NTs live this way because they have plenty of friends and when you have them you tend to be in demand socially which means you get job offers, invitations, dates. People want you around. It's what being an NT means.


Good way of putting it, Magneto.

I agree



I can't speak for other countries, but in the U.S. this is absolutely not true. There may have been little pockets a few years wide when the economy was in stratospheric growth where this was true for some people. It has never been the literal norm. Most people, even in a good economy, must apply. In a very good economy, the answer to that application has more often been "yes" than it will be in a bad economy, but this idea of "lots of job offers without even applying"??? I had an easy time finding a job during 80's boom time but I still had to hit the pavement and apply. Nothing came to me or anyone else I knew. The difference between boom time and bust is during boom times, the answer is more likely to be "yes". But it has never been the NT norm for jobs to literally fall into peoples' laps. That's why I cited celebrities. They alone seem to have jobs find them rather than vice versa. And even they must do career maintenance or that well will dry up.



Who are you hanging out with? Do you actually KNOW anybody like this or are you just assuming? On occasion I have met people who had more than one marriage proposal. This is the not-too-often case where one person wants to get married and the other wants to break up. Then they break up. But fending off multiple marriage proposals from multiple suitors is just something from 30's screwball comedies which were never meant to be taken seriously.



This does happen to hardcore super-extroverts. True friend-juggling extreme social butterflies will find themselves juggling invites in their teens and early 20's. Not so much as they age and their circle of friends solidifies so that they frequently have an invite but less frequently a conflict. For regular extroverts, even in their teens and early 20's they are unlikely to be frantically juggling so many friends that conflicts are the norm. A more common scenario is frequent invites that don't conflict. The introvert NT of course is unlikely to have conflict ever and must nearly be coaxed out by friends.



This is age dependent. Young NT people often like to have their picture taken and will often leap in front of the camera. The desire to have one's picture taken decreases markedly with age.





BWAHAHAHA. So all NT people are rich??? Seriously? NT is a neurology, not an ATM. Think this through logically. If being NT meant never being short on cash, there would be almost no poverty, since a precondition for poverty would be Aspie neurology.



True, assuming the person is an extrovert. An introvert NT still makes friends (as do Aspies, according to many threads), but they are fewer in number and therefore dry spells can happen if a treasured friend becomes less available, through moving or having a child


Some are. Some aren't. If NT was such a surefire ticket to happiness, Prozac and other anti-depressants wouldn't be such big sellers because an Aspie-only market wouldn't be very profitable



I don't think so at all. But I do think some people are taking the lack of an intense special interest as evidence of shallowness, something I don't agree with.

There are plenty of people who have this kind of life. It's common. It's what's considered to be "normal" and not a lifestyle of a priviledged type like a celebrity. Many NTs live this way because they have plenty of friends and when you have them you tend to be in demand socially which means you get job offers, invitations, dates. People want you around. It's what being an NT means.

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'Neurotypicality' is a social (hahahaha) construct create so people can pigeon hole anyone who is remotely different from them and use it to justify their polarised 'Us/Them' mentality.