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27 Aug 2009, 2:48 pm

Not any easy solution topic

I have been next to homeless, but I have no addictions, no smoking or credit issues.

For homeless people who go to shelters, they have got to get counselling to find out why they are homeless. There is always a reason.

Giving someone an apartment is not enough. If the person cannot manage money he or she will soon lose the given apartment, because the person cannot pay the rent. The alternative is group housing, and I know many will not like it ( I would not either) but the alternative is being on the street. There are some who are hardcore and would rather live there. Giving gloves, food, clothes are usually what this sort of person needs. Money itself would mean little to them.


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27 Aug 2009, 6:59 pm

Oh yes. I mean, it's unfortunate for some of them, but please just leave me alone. It's the same with retail sales people who want to come up to you as soon as you walk in. If I wanted help, I'd ask for it. I worked at a music store once called FYE, and we were required to greet EVERY person who walked in the door. Who seriously wants that when they're trying to shop? I just want to be left alone. Maybe it's just an AS thing.


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28 Aug 2009, 2:08 am

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Downtown does not need any more affordable housing



08/26/09

With many economic indicators suggesting the recession is easing, the City may very well be inclined to seriously push its plans again in earnest for the redevelopment of the downtown.

We already see some signs. Construction of Executive Place, downtown Red Deer’s first skyscraper, is topping out.

Last week the former Central Alberta Florists building on 43 St. was demolished to make way for a new eight-storey Skyway Professional Centre.

And soon we may very well see visible signs of the City’s grand plans for the Riverlands now that all of the public works departments have moved to their spanking new facilities on the east side.

The former Arlington Inn site is now up for sale, and we hope the City will be able to land a developer whose vision is in sync with the grand plan for the historic downtown core as brought forward in the updated Greater Downtown Action Plan (GDAP).

In last week’s CitySpeak, Councillor Lorna Watkinson-Zimmer said she would like to see a brew pub, an apartment building or condo project at the now vacant lot.

“It’s the entranceway from the north into our downtown, so I think it would be great to see a nice residential building,” said Watkinson-Zimmer. “But whatever goes there I hope that the builders respect what was there before – that being the Arlington.”

For the past two years we have heard repeatedly the intersection at 49 St. and 51 Ave. will be the gateway to the revitalized downtown core, and it only makes sense to have people-friendly features there, ones that will attract citizens when they move back and forth from the downtown to the Riverlands. This is a concept that was rightly embraced by all City officials.

But what appears to be happening is that the “gateway” to the downtown is turning into a huge billboard for affordable housing.

It is also an area the RCMP has not seen any significant decline in crime despite the City’s attempts and highly publicized intentions for major redevelopment.

On one side of the Arlington Inn site we have the old Buffalo Hotel, a “housing first” affordable housing facility since 2007. The facility is designed for up to 40 individuals living on the streets, many struggling with mental illness and/or addictions.

On the other side of the Arlington is the Rancher’s Valley Inn, which has been sold and is now in the process of being converted into an expanded multi-million dollar four-story affordable housing project for inner city workers who do not earn more than $32,000 a year.

“My preference would have been not to have the building turned into affordable housing,” Watkinson-Zimmer told CitySpeak. “I think ideally I would have liked to see the building turned into medium-priced housing.”

Not to be lost in the discussion is the Safe Harbour Society’s mat and detox programs in the planned Railyards district, and Horizon House, a John Howard Society housing program in the downtown core’s former Park Hotel for up to 25 individuals in transition from a period of incarceration.

For many years the City has wrestled with what should be done to the downtown area to make it more attractive and inviting for its citizens and visitors.

But it also had the always thorny problem of affordable housing to combat, never more problematic during the boom years from 2005 to 2007.

Mayor Morris Flewwelling made it a key priority in launching his Mayor’s Task Force on Ending Homelessness, an initiative that was and still is a driving force to provide affordable housing to thousands in the community who are at risk, including the destitute and the working poor.

The broad strokes of Flewwelling’s initiative deserve the highest praise but what has become highly questionable and worthy of more vigorous debate is whether the historic downtown core, as well as the future Riverlands and Railyards districts, are the right places to implement affordable housing programs.

This debate should begin immediately as the City moves ahead with its grand dream of overhauling the downtown.

If serious compromises are not reached the future of the downtown core may look the same as it has for the past generation – uninviting.

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28 Aug 2009, 2:19 am

There are no homeless people where I live. No beggars either. So I guess the answer is no, they don't affect me.


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28 Aug 2009, 2:37 am

^ The same here, there are no homeless or poor people where i live, it's a town of 14,000 people, and the ones that APPEAR to be homeless and poor are actually just as wealthy as the rest of us, but they do it because they try to make us THINK they are homeless, therefore i give them no money, i just walk past them, most of the "Beggars" are latinos, not black people, even though they are about 1/3 of the population there, so i don't give a s*** about poor people.