Worst thing a Psychiatrist/Therapist etc. has told you.

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stewy
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30 Oct 2009, 6:47 am

Some of the stuff mentioned in this thread isn't just "bad therapy", it's actually medically negligent or even criminal.

Is anyone doing anything to report these people, get them struck off the medical register, or even just named and shamed?

If these stories are true, then there's no way should some of these "therapists" be allowed to practise.



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30 Oct 2009, 6:54 am

Especially if they're wealthy enough to retire (and not steal anyone anymore) :evil:



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30 Oct 2009, 8:20 am

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Shocking.

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Yet another doctor bashing thread.
Can't y'all just bookmark your favorite ones (and there are perhaps literally dozens) and simply refer back to those when you're feeling particularly vehement towards the shrinks who have wronged you?

My point is that there is nothing productive about these threads.


are you kidding me? These threads are the most productive! Why waste money on doctors that just string you along? Why not chat with others that have been in the same predicament and circumstances? Surely you don't mean we are supposed to roll over and get our collective bellies scratched by those who know better than we do?

I have done more productive therapy on this discussion board than I have ever done under a mental health professionals care, WritersBlock. Perhaps, if you stay around, you will understand why.

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30 Oct 2009, 8:40 am

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I have done more productive therapy on this discussion board than I have ever done under a mental health professionals care ...


Same here, and it is very real and "live" and it sticks!

I just read this last night:

"I hear and I forget, I see and I know, I *do* and I understand!"
(emphasis and exclamation mark added)


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30 Oct 2009, 9:19 am

i was in a psychiatric unit for many years of my schooling, and i had an ascribed psychiatrist who had student psychologists who studied me during my consultations with my psychiatrist.

i was told many things about myself but none of the things i was told bothered me.

my parents (adoptive but it is irrelevant(they loved me like their own child (or even more))) were at a meeting with my psychiatrist one day with me present and my psyche told my mother that i did not love her in the way she thought i did.

she said (my psych was a woman) to my mother that my deepest experience of love goes no further than the love i have for animals. she said i was not capable of true adult love, and i am only capable of the love that a child might have for his pet.

i did not want my mother to hear it, and she became upset and she asked me if i would be more sad if she or my cat died.
i could not answer it because i can not think that way, and she decided she was no more valuable to me than an animal.

i do love animals, so if she thought it was a feeble way to love, then she was wrong.
she is not alive anymore but i wish she knew that i consider all animals (but very few humans) "lovable", and so it is a compliment to her to know that i loved her as much as my animal friends. she never knew and never will now.


ahh well.
i guess it was good that my mother found out about the depth of my soul before she invested too much hope in me.



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30 Oct 2009, 9:38 am

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I have done more productive therapy on this discussion board than I have ever done under a mental health professionals care, WritersBlock. Perhaps, if you stay around, you will understand why.

Me too, and I only just joined in June! The sharing of experiences lets me know I'm not alone in that kind of stuff.
Practical advice about how to make things actually do-able is certainly good, and it can be nice to get it here where it's more personal, but I google for information too. It's the sharing that's really important, and knowing what has and hasn't worked for other people.



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30 Oct 2009, 10:24 am

sinsboldly wrote:
... are you kidding me?


Actually, no- I don't have that ability.



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30 Oct 2009, 10:33 am

b9 wrote:
my parents (adoptive but it is irrelevant(they loved me like their own child (or even more))) were at a meeting with my psychiatrist one day with me present and my psyche told my mother that i did not love her in the way she thought i did.

she said (my psych was a woman) to my mother that my deepest experience of love goes no further than the love i have for animals. she said i was not capable of true adult love, and i am only capable of the love that a child might have for his pet.


That was cruel, both to you and to your mother! Was that psych some kind of confused feel-gooder or simply a sadist?

Love is action, and you gave your mother 100% of all you had available.


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30 Oct 2009, 10:43 am

A counsellor once told me, as if confirming the chemicals in a mass spectrometer that;

'You live entirely in your head'


I think my response was something like 'Oh'

Today it would be;

'That's is pure f****ng genius, no wonder you guys have to study so long to get qualified. Now then, tell me, how the f**k do you get me OUT of my ****ing head and into YOUR ****ing world :!: '

or perhaps a simple 'Well, we'd better get me out then :!: '


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30 Oct 2009, 5:18 pm

I love the people who tell you they want to be therapists. I had this guy in work a few years ago who said he was sick of working with computers and wanted to "work with people". I said "oh yeah in what way" he said "Counselling".

This is a guy that ate so badly he developed diabetes at 28. He used to eat Fries covered in curry with two sausages every day for lunch, he would use 4 sachets of salt on it. He was 31 (probably a virgin) lived with his mother and spent his coffee breaks talking to a 53 year old woman that worked on the floor below us.

Yes my friend exactly what this economy needs is a good software engineer with a life like yours quitting his job to be a therapist.



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30 Oct 2009, 7:00 pm

lemme see.....

I was taken to a psychiatrist only once.

A waste of time it was, He was under the impression that the issue with me was a lack of motivation or something I had no idea.

The feeling between my mother and I at the end of the appt was the same, "that was 30mins of my life i want back"


as for those stories of negligence by professionals

I have one piece of advice

Report them to the medical board. (or the equivalent in your area)



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30 Oct 2009, 8:41 pm

I've steered clear of therapists, but I do remember being in family therapy when I was 13. One conversation went something like this:

Therapist (to me): How do you feel about what the others have just said?

Me: I don't know.

Therapist (incredulously, while other family members roll their eyes): What do you mean you don't know? How can you not know how you feel?

Me: I don't know. I don't feel anything, really. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with me.

Other family members: She manipulating us.

Therapist (to me): Are you manipulating them?

Me: I don't know. I've never heard that word before. What does it mean?

Therapist: It's trying to make other people do what you want them to do, so you can have your way.

Me: What are you talking about?

Family members: Yep, she's manipulating us alright.

Me: What?!

Therapist: How do you feel about all this?

Me: Pissed off. I'm leaving. [and I walked out of the room]

I never did understand what was going on, there, especially since the whole reason we were there was because my big sister had drank a large glass of rum for breakfast before school one morning. I just went back and forth from school and bugged no one.

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A quarter century later, I had a good experience with a therapist, who we saw to try to figure out what we were doing wrong as parents:

Therapist: After hearing what you've had to say over the past few sessions, I believe that you both are very good parents, and doing a really good job. Your son is the most brilliant and baffling child I have ever met. I honestly don't feel qualified to guess what might be going on with him, but I suspect it may be some kind of neurological condition of some sort. Whatever it is, it is not your fault. It's nothing that you are doing wrong. Here are some phone numbers of people who might be better qualified to help.



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30 Oct 2009, 9:24 pm

EngishForAliens wrote:
I love the people who tell you they want to be therapists. I had this guy in work a few years ago who said he was sick of working with computers and wanted to "work with people". I said "oh yeah in what way" he said "Counselling".

This is a guy that ate so badly he developed diabetes at 28. He used to eat Fries covered in curry with two sausages every day for lunch, he would use 4 sachets of salt on it. He was 31 (probably a virgin) lived with his mother and spent his coffee breaks talking to a 53 year old woman that worked on the floor below us.

Yes my friend exactly what this economy needs is a good software engineer with a life like yours quitting his job to be a therapist.




ROFL!! !! !! ! OMG THAT WAS HILARIOUS!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! BTW it's not all bad. :-) I'm wanting to become a Psychologist the research kind no offense to people on the spectrum or any disorder but IMO diagnosing is unproductive because it leaves you questioning who you are and such. I've read neat articles that are studies on DOZENS of behavior topics and think wow this/that would make a great study. :-) That's the Psychology I want to get into! :-)



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30 Oct 2009, 9:34 pm

I also feel WP has helped me emotionally more than any pill or therapist etc. and my Psychology teacher (although she DID upset me etc.) gave me better advice in 5min. than anyone!! ! A couple examples.


Me and a student were arguing in class and the teachers comment was "I don't know I've never been in that situation" IMO DING DING CORRECT ANSWER! YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN MY SITUATION SO SHUT UP!! !! !! !!

Another experience I saw an old school bully/friend we hugged and exchanged phone numbers my mom was upset since this was a past bully (IMO forgive/forget) UH not for mom! She argued with me over talking to the guy and she suggested I tell the Psychology teacher and that she'd agree with her!! !! !! Well I did go to the Psychology teacher she said "You already know what to do" I said I do she said "yes" MOST POWERFUL ADVICE EVER!! !! !

She also looked you STRAIGHT in the eye and listened to your issues,and after giving advice the following day she'd ask did that work out for you? etc. SHE CARED FOR PEOPLES FEELINGS!! !! !! !! She was caring and compassionate while YES she was a great Psychology teacher IMO overall she should have NOT been teaching and been a Psychologist full-time she's THAT GOOD IMO!



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30 Oct 2009, 11:43 pm

elderwanda wrote:
I've steered clear of therapists, but I do remember being in family therapy when I was 13.


Family therapy. My biological family would have needed to have jumped several quantum levels to do something like that!


I can just picture it something like this;

Dad and my brother sitting (uncomfortably) in silence, in absolute dread that 'Therapist' might actually ask them a question.

Me, interrogating the Therapist about how this would affect me and what did he (they were all male back in the 60's where I lived) think I should study at University and could I do more than one degree.

Mum trying desperately to appear in control but being completely clueless...............

Therapist thinking who the *uck is this kid?


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31 Oct 2009, 2:42 am

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sinsboldly wrote:
... are you kidding me?


Actually, no- I don't have that ability.


sorry, dude, didn't mean to make you feel uncomfortable. :D

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