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03 Nov 2009, 5:37 am

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Towards the end she started with smalltalk and he didnt respond. Thats probably why she got angry when he looked at the name tag. He wasnt interacting with her when he went about his 'fact finding'.


He tried to introduce himself and find out her name, and she didn't respond to that. I didn't see much of her making an effort to interact with him, she just looked like she was chattering at him because she had to be in his presence.


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03 Nov 2009, 7:46 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
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Towards the end she started with smalltalk and he didnt respond. Thats probably why she got angry when he looked at the name tag. He wasnt interacting with her when he went about his 'fact finding'.


He tried to introduce himself and find out her name, and she didn't respond to that. I didn't see much of her making an effort to interact with him, she just looked like she was chattering at him because she had to be in his presence.


That's what I got out of it, too... I really don't get the point of the video in all honesty, as she seemed very EXTREME. I mean, I wonder how many non-autistic people would watch that and actually admit to acting like that lady, or how many would look at that and say, "wow, she's really got an attitude on her and would probably go off on anyone!" She was talking to herself mostly, not to him really, as she kept talking and talking and talking and not looking at him but just walking on and on...

It just really didn't seem like a very realistic situation at all, and they made her out to be... just as abnormal as they were trying to make him look as well.

Maybe they were trying to show things from our point of view so people would see how it is.... but the way it was done still kind of loses me.


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03 Nov 2009, 8:51 am

He didn't break and social etiquette, she did. She isn't dressed professionally and she doesn't behave professionally. She's filing her nails and not tending to her job which is to greet and direct people who approach her desk. He shouldn't have to ask her for help. She should have seen him coming (if she wasn't so busy filing her nails) and said "Good Morning. May I help you?" She has an attitude like she doesn't want to be bothered. She's also daft. She gives receptionists a bad name. A good receptionist is essential to public and employee relations. I don't know how she got that job.

I don't like this film because it's manipulative. The character of the receptionist was deliberately created to cause confusion beginning with the low cut dress. If the film makers want viewers to assume that it's the Aspie guy who has the problem, that is insulting. But I'm not sure that is the case. I don't know who the target audience is/was intended to be. If it's a teaching tool for Asperger's, they failed miserably.

If they had dressed the woman professionally and scripted her to have good manners and a professional manner they would have served the autism community much better and with more respect - but they wouldn't have been able to get their point across about people - and not just neurotypical people, but people in general - There will be times, under certain circumstances, that people will misunderstand the behavior of other people. The woman in this film is an idiot -so from the start the film is mis-leading. The Aspie is a perfect gentleman. There is nothing that he should have done differently. He wouldn't have had to bend down to try and read her name tag if she had introduced herself from the start with an offer to help him find his way about.



03 Nov 2009, 9:32 am

In this case, they had switched places. The woman was the aspie and the man was the "NT." She didn't read him or seem to know she was supposed to answer.



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03 Nov 2009, 9:38 am

cosmiccat wrote:
She isn't dressed professionally and she doesn't behave professionally.


Exactly.
She should've covered herself up.
Putting the name tag where she did is just asking for trouble.


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The woman in this film is an idiot


I agree.

I wonder if they were trying to show a stereotypical airhead?

I've met receptionists that were much nicer than this, even the bad tempered ones.
They dressed properly.


As for the man zooming in on details with his eyes.

I think that's a hardwired behavioural trait.
People have commented that my eyes zoom in on details a lot.
I can't seem to help it.
It's like some breeds of dogs can't resist digging in the ground or herding sheep.
Behavioural traits occur in humans too.
The eyes zooming into focus in on details is one of them.
I believe that this trait runs in 'geeky' families (from what I've seen anyway).
Families that take jobs which require attention to detail.

My eyes can't help darting around looking for and focussing in on details.
This trait is brilliant for detailed or observational/scientific work.
It's almost like I have a giant magnifying glass stuck to the front of my head.

I've tried to stop myself from doing it, but I can't seem to help it.
This trait of mine has actually been honed by years of scientific education.
They encourage you to look at and analyse physical details.

After I'd been in the lab for a few hours, I found it almost impossible to socialise because my eyes were still in detailed focussing around mode. So what was useful trait in one situation can restrict you in another.

I think that some allowances should be made for hardwired behaviours or at least efforts to direct people with these inadvertent behaviours into suitable vocations.



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03 Nov 2009, 10:58 am

anxiety25 wrote:
I mean, I wonder how many non-autistic people would watch that and actually admit to acting like that lady, or how many would look at that and say, "wow, she's really got an attitude on her and would probably go off on anyone!"


I showed it to a non-autistic once. They immediately referred to her using the b-word.



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03 Nov 2009, 11:00 am

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I mean, I wonder how many non-autistic people would watch that and actually admit to acting like that lady, or how many would look at that and say, "wow, she's really got an attitude on her and would probably go off on anyone!"


I showed it to a non-autistic once. They immediately referred to her using the b-word.


lol, exactly as I suspected... there can't be a lot of truth taken from this video, or much read into the actual meaning when her attitude is just so extreme. It makes everyone who watches it mad at her immediately rather than paying attention to what the message actually says.


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03 Nov 2009, 11:39 am

Actually many girls put the tag on their shirt near chest to make you look at their t... But you can't stare.


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03 Nov 2009, 9:30 pm

outlier wrote:
anxiety25 wrote:
I mean, I wonder how many non-autistic people would watch that and actually admit to acting like that lady, or how many would look at that and say, "wow, she's really got an attitude on her and would probably go off on anyone!"


I showed it to a non-autistic once. They immediately referred to her using the b-word.


Agreed. If the video hadn't mentioned AS, and had posed the question "Which of these people has difficulty playing nicely with others?", I would have picked her.


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03 Nov 2009, 9:39 pm

Yeah and I couldn't see what was wrong in the video except for the fact the man interrupted while she was talking. Maybe someone who made the video also has AS and they accidentally made the woman have it because he or she also didn't understand the social rules. :lol:



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03 Nov 2009, 11:01 pm

Boyfriend says they did a LOUSY job portraying it, but he thinks the repeated questioning might have something to do with it as well rather than making sure he got her attention first. Said he didn't stop to try to figure out why she wasn't hearing him, he was just talking at her like he was on a mission basically rather than taking in the situation around him.

While he agrees that she was basically nutty and was a b****, the guy was awkward in the social situation from the start.

He said it's like the guy is on his whole separate page, but the girl does as well. Yet, he doesn't see that she obviously isn't paying any attention to what he is saying, and most people would be like "I'm just gonna follow this person and hope the people I'm working with upstairs are nicer", but he keeps asking the question over and over. He said it's like he has a script he is going by and that is it.


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03 Nov 2009, 11:50 pm

Personally, I like the whole series. This one and the lunch scene are the two I like best.

They are only 60 second PSAs, which means that they have to be broadly drawn. And you can't really represent a "different" view of the world on screen without resorting to visual trickery.


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03 Nov 2009, 11:52 pm

I hope they make more. They may be over the top but they give people an insight about AS.



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04 Nov 2009, 3:09 am

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The receptionist does not expect anyone to actually be looking at her name tag.

But... There's text on it. If I see a word, then I read it. Even if it's in a foreign language. ...As long as it's a writing system that I know.

Surely, that's not an unusual tendency... Right?


When you don't know someone, you don't read the person's name tag and expect to strike up a conversation with their name. It's really awkward because the other person doesn't know your name. It gets even more awkward when ther person points this out.

The only use for a name tag is for the bosses to read them in case he forgets or is a higher up who doesn't talk with the ones down on the lower end of the chain.


I disagree vehemently. I might want to know that person's name so I could either reward them for excellent service or write their supervisor for what a rude person they were, depending on how they acted.



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04 Nov 2009, 3:11 am

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Something about this video seems off. The woman's attitude in the video seems artificial. The lack of replying to the first response, the bitchy attitude she has.... this doesn't seem like something that would happen in a real conversation. :?

Infact, the more I watch this, the more I'm certain this is staged to make the woman look bad and the autistic man look better. No receptionist would act like that in real life; You could get in trouble for it.


Believe me I have had sh***y service with a rotten attitude from a greeting person for no reason many, many, many times - and it does happen a lot today.



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04 Nov 2009, 3:15 am

Nightsun wrote:
Actually many girls put the tag on their shirt near chest to make you look at their t... But you can't stare.
well, having poor peripheral vision how CAN I see those lovelies then? LOL)