is it just me or is there alot of people from UK on here??
sounds about right, beebee.
specific learning disability = SPLD = dyslexia
specific language disability = SPLAD = various (as in various reasons for it)
global learning delay = various, again
"ret*d" or ret*d" are generally frowned upon in educational and medical circles, as they're considered derogatory, and therefore offensive.
In the UK that is a Learning Difficulty
Well you mention IQ and this is probably why we are beginning to differ as we are slowly moving away from the use of the bellcurve IQ
I should add we do use the term global learning disability as well or PMLD (Profound Multiple learning disabilities)
Edit: Don't know what the US attitude is towards Dual Diagnosis but I know it provokes some contraversy (Learning disability+Mental illness)
ImpecuniousMax
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By the way Laz:
"Good pasties"
Thankyou. They are the best.
As a fellow appreciator of the pasty, I offer to you a recommendation of five o’ the best. It is, after all, important to know where to obtain the strange beast known as the pasty. Heeeeere we go:
Philps (all over Cornwall but based in Hayle), Lavenders (Penzance), Anne’s Pasty Shop (The Lizard), Penzance Pasty Shop (Penzance, obviously), Warrens (all over Cornwall).
Regrettably, perhaps the single worst company at competently producing pasties, the loathsome Ginsters, is also the biggest, stretching its insidious tentacles far beyond Cornwall and into national territory. It truly gives a bad name to pasties (and that name is a Ginster’s pasty).
WARNING: BAD SENSE OF HUMOUR IMMINENT.
Laz, as a connoisseur of the pasty, I recommend to you (and indeed everyone who reads this post) the course of action I take every time I encounter the insult that is a Ginster’s pasty. Below I have detailed the few simple steps I have called The Pasty Code.
[I will use an example that happened to me the 426th time I found it necessary to use The Pasty Code. I consider it a fairly typical one. Whoever is employing The Pasty Code, be it (me in the original case given) you, or a conscientious friend, is represented when reference is needed by the letter A]
1> Remove the offending item from its packaging, hurl it onto the floor and stamp on it with all your force. Step 1 ensures that no mistaken unfortunate will consume the item in future.
2> Pick up the now thoroughly defeated pasty, and conceal it behind your back. Approach the nearest member of staff. Ask to speak to the manager.
3> When the manager appears, undertake the following conversation:
A: (in an overly jovial manner) “Ho fat shop-keeper. Tell me, do you sell pasties?”
Manager: “Um, yes. Third isle, behind the Happy Elf Goo Pies.”
A: (Quietly, and with a hint of threat) “No, no. Real pasties.”
Manager: “Er, ha ha ha. Ha. Ours are quite real. Ha ha.”
A: (Wildly) “Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha! (cease laughing or any hint of a smile instantly) You see, I only ask, because I checked this myself.”
Manager: “Yes?”
A: (Allow an evil glint into your eyes) “Oh, yes. Yes indeed. And what I found deeply offended me.”
(Pause just long enough for the silence to become uncomfortable. At this point, hold up the limp, mangled form of the pasty. Let the manager glance around desperately for a couple of seconds)
A: (With quiet menace but great deliberation) “I was forced to smite it.”
(At this point the manager will be looking for a means of escape. It is important that you prevent this. Trip away his left leg with your right, and as he falls, dodge round and catch him in a headlock. Now force the remains of the Ginsters into his mouth.)
A: (Shouting very, very loudly) “DO YOU LIKE IT? DO YOU?”
Manager: “Mffflll mmffl…”
(tighten your grip)
A: “IS THIS YOUR IDEA OF FUN? NO? AND YET YOU MAKE PEOPLE PAY FOR THE VERY SAME! DOES THIS TASTE LIKE A REAL PASTY TO YOU? WELL?”
(Loosen your grip a little)
Manager: “Arggg! Help me! HEL…”
(Tighten your grip again)
A: “Exactly! This mass produced crap is the antithesis of the true Cornish pasty. Even you can see that. What? Oh, never mind. Do come along.”
(Drag him to the display on which you found the Ginsters. Hurl him bodily and with some considerable force into it)
A: (Righteously) “I CAST YOU OUT!”
(With this the manager will have learnt his lesson, and will display his gratitude by being draped over the now destroyed Ginster’s display in an unconscious fashion. Your work now done, vacate the premises.)
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Most would rather be wrong than different.
I wasn't talking about giving the nations of the Union home rule - I meant full independence. I'm confident that if there was a referendum in all four UK countries, they'd all vote to stay within the UK. In fact, under this present arrangement it's actually England and Northern Ireland that's being discriminated against.
I don't have much confidence in home rule, either. Have you seen the complete nincompoops that infest the monstrosity that is the Scottish Parliament? Those jumped-up little turds couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery. It's effectively just another 'regional' body set up to keep the SNP (amongst others) quiet.
I'm fully in favour of giving democratically elected councils the powers to do their job and I'd like to leave that half-baked, social democratic monstrosity that is the European Union so that the United Kingdom can adequately govern itself.
We don't have real liberty and democracy in this country any more anyway. Successive Governments (ZaNuLabour in particular) have pretty much done away with it.
Call me that and I'd (try to) rip your frigging head off.
Last edited by Tequila on 08 Mar 2006, 9:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Today, pasty contents vary, especially outside of Cornwall. Common fillings include beef steak and stilton, chicken and ham, cheese and vegetable and even turkey and stuffing.
Pasties are usually hand-made and sold in bakeries or (less often) specialist pasty shops. It is common in some areas for pasties to be eaten "on-the-move" from the paper bag they are sold in, making them essentially a fast-food.
They are still very popular throughout Devon and Cornwall, and also in the rest of the United Kingdom. Pasties are sold in supermarkets, but these are mass produced and often taste entirely different from authentic Cornish pasties. Several pasty shop chains have also opened up in recent years, selling pasties that are more traditional than the common mass-produced varieties while still offering novel fillings.
We brits love our pasties and pies, from a city to a town or a village you are almost guaranteed to find a bakery or shop that sells pasties.
It is true in the sense that the 'pastie' was originally inspired by the cornish but the original pastie recipe has been altered and you will more than likely find a pastie that contains cheese and onion as a filling (usually consists of a cheese mixed potatoe) or sausage, commonly referred to as the sausage roll.
The pastie in its recipe form is a slightly unhealthy snack especially when consumed every lunchtime, it might even be more unhealthier in terms of fat content than a average UK Mc Donalds cheeseburger.
Imagine that, the UK consumers are more concerned over the famous US burger than our own local pies and pasties that probably contain more additivies (crap) and fat than Mc donalds own cheeseburger, also without forgetting 'fish and chips' and fried batter, are we 'batty' or what?
Mc donalds is a well established worldide leader in Fast food and it is probably without reason that it has quickly dominated the UK market as well as the World, but should we not forget that we 'also' have our own fast food market of pasties and pies, like for instance 'greggs' and 'sayers', they don't exacly produce a healthy alternative to a big Mac or cheesebuger do they?
In fact, you are more likely to find greggs or sayers in a small town than a Mc Donalds, right, Tequila?
I'm not posting here to criticise the UK's food Culture and tradition, I'm just highlighting a point were by the UK consumers concerns over unhealthy food would rather point more towards the obvious like Mc Donalds than towards our own ambiguous food culture.
You're much more likely to find a decent pie shop than a McDonald's (which are really the preserve of larger towns) in most towns up here.
I had a proper Lancashire meat and potato pie from the local bakery yesterday. It were lovely.
Up here, in the northeast, we have stotties.
These are flat round loaves of bread that make brilliant sandwiches - just cut a wedge of stottie, slice in half and fill with what you fancy.
They were originally made as quick bread because they only have one rising, and they have a soft, moist texture with a soft crust.
These are flat round loaves of bread that make brilliant sandwiches - just cut a wedge of stottie, slice in half and fill with what you fancy.
They were originally made as quick bread because they only have one rising, and they have a soft, moist texture with a soft crust.
I tried making one of them once. It just tasted dull.
Two gentleman walking through a residential street in Brockenhurst, Hampshire.
1st Gentleman: I say old chap, is that pie I can smell coming from that house?
2st Gentleman: Why yes, that would be apparent.
1st Gentleman: I say old boy, it would appear that person is from the north.
2nd Gentleman: Under the circumstances it would appear so.
1st Gentleman: Without hesitation, I would say that, that old boy is from the north, I say from the north...
Tequila said
Do you mean actually pre-baking a Hollands pie or copying the recipe to bake your own?
I think supermarkets get it wrong all the time whenever they try to bake pies at there premises or when they pre-pack, a pie from the supermarket ends up tasting revolting all the time.
Once I bought a pie from ASDA which appeared to be of their own, and when I started eating into the pastry the casing seperated from the filling. In the end I had to eat bits of the pie with all the use of my fingers, I could well have been in a david attenborough documentary about the life of mammals.
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