Jesus and autism

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O this is bugging me now. JTB goes out into desert and lives off honey and locust.

1. How much honey/locust is minimum nutritional requirement for long period in desert.

2. There is some variables at work here longer you are out there, physical atrophy will increase/ability to locate food decrease. Also unless relocating you will need to forage further as nearest food sources are expended.

3. Add to this, bee stings from honey stealing, this would add to physical deterioration + have all sorts of effects on immune systems.

3a. How difficult are locusts to catch when in physically debilitated state?

JTB's Diet / capture- procurement method is not most efficient in terms of energy to effort expended.

Will try not to think about this anymore.

All around the world cultures you always have an enlightened person who goes into the wilds to have an epiphany.

I wanna try it someday just got out into the forested mountains and learn something.

It upsets me greatly that people are still using centuries- or millennia-old books of mythology and fables to try and make sense of the modern world.

Religious people represent the counterpoint to the advancement of the human race through science, tolerance and understanding, and humanitarianism.

Well, I tried to call him and ask, but he didn't pick up the phone, so it's a pretty good bet that he's an Aspie.

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More seriously, I think we spend far too much time looking to validate ourselves in fictional and historical personages, when we should be looking to ourselves for our validation. Whether or not Einstein, or Mozart or Christ was autistic does not make me feel empowered. What makes me feel empowered is the help and support of people who are here today, living rich and fulfilling lives.

I don't know of enough reputable evidence to believe that Jesus Christ existed.

If he did exist, I think it would be more reasonable to expect that he was not the "son of God".

If Jesus did exist and did exhibit abnormal behavior, said behavior might be explained by him being the son of God. If this was the case, diagnosing him with neurological or psychological issues would seem difficult at best because it would be very difficult to create a theory of mind to try to understand his emotions and decisions.

But other possibilities seem much more likely:

• A person experiencing hallucinations could believe that they were communicating with a being which had created the universe. The same person, if delusional, could believe that they were the "son of God".
• A person attempting to deceive may do things that would not normally be done. A con artist might try to perform magical tricks to make other people believe they had magical powers even if that was not the case. A group of con artists could have one pretend to be sick and another one could publicly claim to heal the other.

No he didn't.

Gluten intolerence. Another condition that didn;t exist before the 1990s. Unless you can point out which bible character couldn;t hold down a bread roll I will refuse to accept this.

No.

This opens up a great idea: Jesus probably goes along with car parking problems, sex, personal hygiene, the Republican Party and religion in general as a topic booster. Perhaps there is a list of useful words to add to a thread to make sure people read and respond to it?

There is a poison word list that makes topics less visible to search engines, and kills internet adverts http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/interne ... -words.htm

Firstly he is not autistic, he is the Son of God.

Many of you fail to even accept that Jesus was an actual person (even with the divinity aside), there is written history even outside the Bible to this accord. I just do not see how you can so quickly reject things which have recorded (wriiten) evidence from two thousand years ago, yet so quickly accept the assumptions of modern "science" (things which are outisde of being testable, repeatable, and verifiable). It seems that you are picking and choosing the things from history which will affirm the lifestyle wherein you have decided to live. Christ told you that you would be this way if you were to trust the theories of men, because men look for ways to justify their own desires.

Proverbs 14
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Matthew 7
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 12
O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Matthew 14
But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.... For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.

John 3
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Well, assuming the Biblical data is correct (I know that's a rash assumption given all the tampering that's happened through the ages, but it's the only data we have as far as I know):

His theory of mind showed signs of impairment - he went missing and worried his parents sick till they found him chatting to a load of priests, who were amazed at his knowledge of theology (special interest?)....when his parents asked him how he could treat them like that, he didn't seem to understand the harm he'd done, and appeared to think that they should have known he'd be "in his father's house." Not long before his execution, he kept wandering off to be alone, without a word to anybody about when he'd be back, and was surprised to find that on his return, his disciples had fallen asleep.

He never took on the social challenges of a steady job or a wife....instead, he hung out with 12 hand-picked friends - rather a large number for an Aspie, but I could probably cope with 12 friends of my own choice, if they were orderly enough. He performed in front of multitudes, but tended to keep his distance, and got his disciples to keep the crowds away from him when he was feeling the strain.

Black and white/rigid thinking: He never changed his mind about anything, in spite of numerous protests by people who felt he was wrong. Didn't he declare that there is no degree of sin?

He was probably either ahead of his time, or behind it. His whole ethical code seemed to be at loggerheads with contemporary opinion, as if his ideas were more suitable for an earlier or later epoch.

He seems to have been at risk of falling in with undesirable types - he would think nothing of spending an evening with cut-throats and prostitutes.


So yes, he could have been an Aspie, though the data is hardly diagnostic. From all I've read and seen, I can't even be sure that he existed.

If Jesus truly did exist, he definitely was not autistic. There's no evidence whatsoever showing he had autism, but a numerous amount showing the opposite.

There's some evidence that a person named Jesus existed. There's no evidence that that person was divinity incarnate. So he started a religion? Just look at some of the other people who've done that.

If a hypothesis is not testable, it is not scientific. The onus is usually on the former of a hypothesis to suggest how it may be tested. The more a hypothesis agrees with observation, the more accepted it becomes, but it is always open to change if it does not agree with observation.

What untestable assumptions do you have in mind?

The initial part of my previous post is leaving aside whether or not you believe he had any divinity, I think it is foolish to deny that Jesus lived but accept that Alexander the Great did (for example).

On the second comment: evolution is not testable, though it is considered scientific.

Can you post a link to that evidence please? Assuming you're not just referring to the New Testament.

Non-christian sources for your reading pleasure:

http://bibleq.info/answer/1254/

No. This is even more ridiculous than the "Did Hitler have autism?" topic.