I Lie Alot - aspergers vs. dishonesty.

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I'm sure I could have answered differently to some of the questions now, I think we all could. But If I took the test today, or on any given day I would still receive a score above 32. The way you look at your self and judge your own abilities change even on daily basis. I answered the questions as honestly and with as much insight I had. Also I was diagnosed at the age of 9, but then undiagnosed because I showed an ability to cope which at that time was unheard of for someone with autism. Yet AS affects me in ways most nts couldn't imagine.

edit: I do 1 and whenever I do 2 or 3 it's often a strategic way to achieve #1. # 2 is by nature irrelevant to me, as I'm not good at showing empathy /doesen't like to show empathy. But I know it's important to treat others with respect and to be a nice, often sefless person so I force myself to give compliments, be welcoming. I have no evil or hidden motives, I just strongly believe it's the right thing to do. #3 is something I could do if I cared more about affirmation and praise, but though I don't like criticism I'd rather like people to not think of me in either a positive or negative way. I could come of that way because I'm don't always feel like being modest unless I need or want people to like me (they usually don't, anyway).

I much prefer honesty but I do occasionally catch myself being dishonest. Usually it comes down to feeling self-conscious around people. Sometimes I'll sidestep giving my real opinion when someone asks for it even when there isn't any real threat from sharing because I feel somehow embarrassed. I've often been told that my embarrassment is irrational. Other people have a hard time understanding me because sometimes I'll be dishonest in a self-defeating way, like I'm embarrassed about making myself look too good. The exact motivation, or why I feel embarrassed by the "real" me is a tough nut to crack. I guess it comes from a feeling of being overwhelmingly different from others and feeling uncomfortable in my own skin as a result. A lot of the time I just feel something really discordant inside me, like I'm ashamed of my own thoughts.

You know, growing up I very rarely lied, and was very bad at it when I did. I didn't begin to get it until I was 21 or 22. Even now I have trouble making up anything believable on the spot. I can do wild absurdity and humor, but making sense, not so good. I have to really think about it and am always surprised when I can successfully fib to cover someone's ass. Most of the time, I'll get halfway there, then get mad and blurt out the truth.

Aspies can lie. I dated one who was dishonest many times, only he wasn't good at remembering details so in essence he was a pretty bad liar. I could catch him every time.

Assembly, I know how you feel. I lie 99% of the time to keep people from getting close to me, if someone gets close they might see who I really am. I can't have that. I was born to a very f****d family, if I told the truth I would get beat, not just with fists, but mentally too. I figgured it out at an early age, if I don't lie convincingly (sp) pain will be applied.
I was in high school before I learned about suicide (strange I know) if I would have thought of it while I was learning about lieing I would not be here today. I also remember lies I told years after I told them, it really bothers me that I can't get some of them out of my head.

Today I no longer lie about general things. I 100% can not lie nor hold back my mouth when someone asks for scientific info. Do NOT ask me about firearms. Don't do it unless you want me to talk for hours about types of designs or balistics, etc. I no longer need to lie about eating the last of the chips or why I got in trouble at school etc, but I still lie about myself, things I have done, places I have been, just to keep people away from me.


To those who doubt that an aspie can lie, take a young aspie and tourture them every day till they say what you want them to say, see if they don't lie. With me it was survive or die and the only way I knew to survive was to lie.

everything i ever said was a lie, including what i just said.

I find it difficult to believe that someone who has AS could be a liar. I find being dishonest in any way almost impossible. I have heard that someone who knows about AS said they never met an aspie who lied.

Yeah, I believe you.

i am not sure what your emoticon conveys, but i was only joking. it was a self defeating statement.

it is like saying "i have never in the past, and never in the future will say anything that is true"
obviously that statement must be a lie if i am telling the truth, and if i am telling the truth about never having spoken the truth, then i am lying by saying i never speak the truth.

whatever. i was not really making a statement about myself, but just playing a logic game.

maybe your emoticon conveys that you think i am out of line by being flippant in an otherwise serious thread as i often am.

If I'm not wrong, he did understand your joke and then he decided to play along Also, by explaining a joke you pretty much ruin it. If someone doesen't get your jokes - too bad for them.

that may well be the case if you were not wrong.



if nobody gets the joke, then it can not be ruined. all that can be done is to explain it to reveal that there was some logical origin to the words i said. most often i do not bother to reveal why what i said made sense, but i did this time.

i thought taupey was a woman. it is well worth researching a bit before you hit the publish button.

If I lie, it's not intentionally. Usually I'll just get a few memories mixed up in my head and end up telling someone the wrong story or something. So I guess it's more that I was mistaken than lying.

Now that's pretty funny





Ruined as in making things worse (not only did 'you' tell a joke that wasn't funny/wasn't appreciated, but 'you' then offer to explain why they should have laughed). To me this does seem a bit arrogant - almost like saying "hey, it's not your fault that you have a poor sense of humour, let me show you the light!"



Agreed, my apologies.

Sorry for my English.

I was diagnosed at 16 years old. I can read people, I have body language and I can lie. I was diagnosed based on my childhood.
I always thought I was some kind of Narcist, but with a 'sometimes' realistic view on myself. I always want to be the best in a particular way, but this is also shifting. Sometimes I want to be the most good looking, sometimes I want to be the smartest, sometimes I want to be the nicest and the most mature, etc.
I feel like I have no personality. My mind-set is changing alot, but really completely. Then sometimes I think I lied when I red my post, but I didn't lied I just have another mind-set now.

Sorry for my bad English. I talk Dutch and French at home.

Hmm.. I've lied before. Usually failing at it.
Most of the time my lies were to avoid someone's wrath or disfavor.

Unfortunately I've also been accused of lying when telling the truth. A much MUCH bigger problem I think.

I don't tell lies and I find it to be completely distasteful to be asked to do so (it makes me furious in fact - my reputation for integrity is VERY important to me) . What I CAN do however is neglect to mention things.

I had an acquaintance once who was a compulsive liar. I couldn't stand being around her because you never knew if what she was saying was real. She was nice enough, but the lying was impossible for me to get past.