16 Jun 2010, 5:17 am
16 Jun 2010, 5:18 am
16 Jun 2010, 5:21 am
Asp-Z wrote:
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Asp-Z wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Wow, even five year olds aren't innocent anymore.
Yeah I always got in trouble for defending myself. I still do these days and I am seen as the bad guy for it. I call it sticking up for myself.
Yeah I always got in trouble for defending myself. I still do these days and I am seen as the bad guy for it. I call it sticking up for myself.
Children are not innocent, this is a common misconception. If anything, they're the worst of them all, because children know no morals, no right or wrong, etc. Two 10 year olds were recently tried in court for raping an 8 year old, and before that two kids kidnapped a younger boy, beat him, possibly sexually assaulted him, and threw him on the train tracks where his body was chopped in half by a train.
This story is nothing in comparison to what a child can really do - which is part of the message of Lord of the Flies I guess.
But anyway, I digress.
I was very lucky to have my bullying sorted out early in secondary school, as I had a good head of year who was respected and somewhat feared, yet was nice to the good kids.
As for defending myself, I've never gotten in trouble for it, because I'm one of the good ones and therefore have a good reputation amongst the teachers and other staff, whereas any fights that have happened were against someone with a bad reputation who gets excluded all the time - so which one do you think they're gonna punish?
Children can have morals. I have seen kids with morals, and even if they lack them, they have brains, so they definetely can get them. Unless you're dealing with a toddler kids aren't innocent. They have the ability to think and that actually can work, and some do that.
And the ignorance of teachers is shocking.
Kids can develop morals, of course, but morals are taught to us by society, so many young children haven't learnt them yet. I guess it depends on how old the child is, though.
Ah yes, and society has already proven so successful at teaching--and following thru on--morals, right?
16 Jun 2010, 5:34 am
16 Jun 2010, 1:04 pm
17 Jun 2010, 5:31 am
League_Girl wrote:
I've read that some people are born evil. That's what's been discovered by doctors about serial killers. I wonder if it's possible to undo it when a kid is born evil? Teach them when they are young before they reach their teen and adult years so they won't do evil things.
i also wonder the same thing.
. cause i always hard it depends how you raise your child that can determine if they be likely to become good or bad.
17 Jun 2010, 8:32 am
unbelievable my little seven year old cousin ( NT) just came down my house and when my mother
ask why you didn't go to school he said, my mom kept me home so those kids and school want bother me i don't know why they do it. he a sweet kid just have a hard time making and keeping friends he kinda too clingy and at time i had to tell him stop buying people stuff just so they play with you. i swear what the hell in he goes to the same elementary school i attended. look like much haven't change. poor kid get kick down a flight of stairs by a girl while 5 of her other friends laugh and when it was reported what the school says he should of told us when it happen. no suspension or nothing. that little boy need to learn how to f##k these stupid kids up. 
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17 Jun 2010, 10:23 am
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17 Jun 2010, 1:02 pm
MONIQUEIJ wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I've read that some people are born evil. That's what's been discovered by doctors about serial killers. I wonder if it's possible to undo it when a kid is born evil? Teach them when they are young before they reach their teen and adult years so they won't do evil things.
i also wonder the same thing.
. cause i always hard it depends how you raise your child that can determine if they be likely to become good or bad.Some of them are created because they weren't given love and attention in their infant years so they never got the chance to develop love and passion and empathy and trust so that's probably why parents freak out when their babies don't like to be held. So the baby grows up and they are sociopaths and they do cruel things and feel no remorse. Ever heard of a story about Beth Thomas? She had RAD and she was able to over come it because she was given treatment. Now she is a nurse and there was a movie made about her called Child of Rage.
Here is a video of her from when she was a child:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME2wmFunCjU
She was so honest about her actions and didn't deny anything she does to her little brother. She looked innocent.
17 Jun 2010, 4:46 pm
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17 Jun 2010, 10:44 pm
MONKEY wrote:
Teachers at school are well aware of bullying from when it first starts but do f**k all about it. They go on about "anti bullying policies" to look good in front of ofsted, while there are kids being harassed both psychologically and physically right under their noses.
To be honest, even though bullying is bad, group dynamics and office politics will never go away, the world is catered to the masses and we can make as many anti bullying policies as we want there will still be those at the bottom of the social ladder.
To be honest, even though bullying is bad, group dynamics and office politics will never go away, the world is catered to the masses and we can make as many anti bullying policies as we want there will still be those at the bottom of the social ladder.
It's not always the teachers fault thou. It's kind of hard for a teacher to maintain control of 30 students when a lot of em have crack-whore mom's who got knocked-up at 13 & the dads are in prison. The kids are staying with a different relative every week & no relatives ever show up for parent teacher conferences but they show up for the Christmas, & Easter parties. When ever a teacher tries calling the parents; the phone number on file is disconnected & when the kid gets sent to the office; the office sends the kid rite back to class. How can a teacher stop bulling when the teacher can not spank the kid or pull the kid off another student without risking major legal trouble
17 Jun 2010, 10:48 pm
nick007 wrote:
MONKEY wrote:
Teachers at school are well aware of bullying from when it first starts but do f**k all about it. They go on about "anti bullying policies" to look good in front of ofsted, while there are kids being harassed both psychologically and physically right under their noses.
To be honest, even though bullying is bad, group dynamics and office politics will never go away, the world is catered to the masses and we can make as many anti bullying policies as we want there will still be those at the bottom of the social ladder.
To be honest, even though bullying is bad, group dynamics and office politics will never go away, the world is catered to the masses and we can make as many anti bullying policies as we want there will still be those at the bottom of the social ladder.
It's not always the teachers fault thou. It's kind of hard for a teacher to maintain control of 30 students when a lot of em have crack-whore mom's who got knocked-up at 13 & the dads are in prison. The kids are staying with a different relative every week & no relatives ever show up for parent teacher conferences but they show up for the Christmas, & Easter parties. When ever a teacher tries calling the parents; the phone number on file is disconnected & when the kid gets sent to the office; the office sends the kid rite back to class. How can a teacher stop bulling when the teacher can not spank the kid or pull the kid off another student without risking major legal trouble
actually, based on another thread I've been reading and contributing to, there's more to it, check it out:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp2854495.html#2854495
you might then see the situation in a totally different way.
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