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23 Jun 2010, 1:02 am

Really? Don't get it? Oh, I do, and for me, this is the ultimate pissed off song. Too bad this one's censored, cause the bite is all gone from it. This song, uncensored, sums up the way I feel whenever faced with bosses accusing me of not doing well enough, or anyone else judging me for any of the choices I've made. It pretty much sums up what I'd like to think of as my Aspie answer to everyone whose ever looked down on my efforts with snobbish judgmental-ism because they "know I could so so much better".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME3Ahe8z16k&feature=related[/youtube]


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23 Jun 2010, 10:58 am

Adding to my earlier post, I also should say that I don't like any music with hate in it. There's too much of that out there, and the artists say it's only reflecting the hate in the public at large. I say that hate in music validates hate in society, and that's not acceptable. Particularly when it's racist or sexist hatred. This is a whole different (and alarming) issue than angry or aggressive music, but somehow I think that many people don't see the differences, or the dangers.

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23 Jun 2010, 11:57 am

Angry or sad music can bring out powerful emotions in people, and many like that. If I have music I think is emotional in some way at the time (the effect of it fades when I've heard it too much :( ), I listen to it while I write poetry.



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23 Jun 2010, 1:01 pm

I get what you're saying about the whole judgment thing. I didn't go to college after I finished high school and a lot of people looked down on me because of it. I've done all right without no education, and my decision to not continue it was because of the various emotional traumas I endured in high school, not a disregard for my future. But I've found I've no regrets. I don't want a "regular" life anyway, with a "good" job. That would mean I would have to stay put 49 or 50 weeks a year, and I consider that a fate worse than death.

I would like to say to these people who have judged me, in no uncertain terms, you can go f*ck yourself.

And there's no better way to harmlessly say "Go f*ck yourself" than listening to angry music.

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Really? Don't get it? Oh, I do, and for me, this is the ultimate pissed off song. Too bad this one's censored, cause the bite is all gone from it. This song, uncensored, sums up the way I feel whenever faced with bosses accusing me of not doing well enough, or anyone else judging me for any of the choices I've made. It pretty much sums up what I'd like to think of as my Aspie answer to everyone whose ever looked down on my efforts with snobbish judgmental-ism because they "know I could so so much better".



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23 Jun 2010, 1:10 pm

Here's a couple of angry songs I like. Note the absence of incoherent screaming. :lol:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MOCOmgJ9-g[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O499jyENw5M[/youtube]


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23 Jun 2010, 2:47 pm

Peace Sells
(but who's buying?)

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23 Jun 2010, 4:32 pm

Wow... New Model Army, Sisters of Mercy, and vintage Megadeth. Great choices, guys. It's really rare that I find anyone who has even HEARD of New Model Army, even with people who are into really obscure stuff. :D
Also cool to see people mentioning classical music. Speaking of angry music... I think Wagner is a good example of just how angry classical can sometimes be.



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23 Jun 2010, 4:51 pm

^ Beethoven has also been referred to as one of the original headbangers. :)

And now for a classic rebuttal...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1LXhgXPWs[/youtube]



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23 Jun 2010, 5:46 pm

DMark wrote:
AC/DC during the Bon Scott era (pre-1980) is not only angry, or at the very least rowdy, music; it speaks to me like nothing else.

Most of the lyrics of the lesser-known tracks mostly aren't superficial odes to sex and alcohol like the popular songs heard on the radio. They are the desperate lamentations of a man who is never whole. Or maybe not so desperate. He resigned himself to a "rock and roll damnation." Neverending tales of being jilted by women, and getting in trouble and drinking himself to oblivion because of it. He knew no other life.


Good example how how subjective the labels we put on art are. I've never considered any of AC/DC's music as Angry. Good, hard, edgy rock and roll, but not angry at all. My parents, when I first started to listen to hard rock, asked me what the appeal was, and I told them it was the ultimate expression of frustration, but never really considered anything I listened to as angry. Never liked thrash metal, or any of the unintelligible screaming metal that came out later. Yeah, that was angry stuff, but I didn't like it. Loud and driving doesn't make it angry to me. Ted Nugent was very loud, very pounding, and very driving, but I never thought of him as angry. In your face and irreverent, yes, but he was always having too much fun for me to call it anger. Same with AC/DC.


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23 Jun 2010, 6:14 pm

MechAnime wrote:
^ Beethoven has also been referred to as one of the original headbangers. :)

And now for a classic rebuttal...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT1LXhgXPWs[/youtube]


Haha I love Twisted Sister. I generally don't like glam metal at all, but I think they had a gritty, punkish, New York Dolls-like vibe that set them apart from the others. And yes, Beethoven definitely had some angry, dark stuff.



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23 Jun 2010, 8:21 pm

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Haha I love Twisted Sister. I generally don't like glam metal at all, but I think they had a gritty, punkish, New York Dolls-like vibe that set them apart from the others. And yes, Beethoven definitely had some angry, dark stuff.


Yeah, I'm not big into glam metal either. I liked early Motley Crue, but not stuff like Warrant or Poison (ugh).

I agree with your description of Twisted Sister. They don't identify with the "glam" scene, which was based out of LA. Plus I adore Dee Snider for his part in speaking up for freedom of speech (i.e., against the PMRC).

Dee Snider Defends Heavy Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spEjRhEZ ... re=related



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23 Jun 2010, 9:54 pm

MechAnime wrote:
Xeno wrote:
Haha I love Twisted Sister. I generally don't like glam metal at all, but I think they had a gritty, punkish, New York Dolls-like vibe that set them apart from the others. And yes, Beethoven definitely had some angry, dark stuff.


Yeah, I'm not big into glam metal either. I liked early Motley Crue, but not stuff like Warrant or Poison (ugh).

I agree with your description of Twisted Sister. They don't identify with the "glam" scene, which was based out of LA. Plus I adore Dee Snider for his part in speaking up for freedom of speech (i.e., against the PMRC).

Dee Snider Defends Heavy Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spEjRhEZ ... re=related


Yeah, I think the first two Motley Crue albums are awesome, but not many songs after that, since they went in the really poppy direction that most bands in that sub-genre did. And yes, Dee Snider gave hell to the PMRC, and rightfully so, haha.



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24 Jun 2010, 12:27 am

Its hard to explain "angry" music to those who don't understand. When I'm really pissed I'll turn on something like Anaal Nathrakh or Suffocation. Upbeat music to me is stuff like Children of Bodom or Finntroll. *shrugs*

For me...listening to angry music is just a release. I never fit in growing up and still don't and its frustrating......why am I going to go put on Britney Spears or some other junk if I'm feeling like s**t? Hell, listening to pop music or "happy" music makes me angry lol.

I don't know. I guess I prefer the violent side of life?


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24 Jun 2010, 12:43 am

This is what I listen to when I want to tear the world apart and watch it burn:

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This is what I listen to get me pumped up...to me, this is "upbeat"

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24 Jun 2010, 12:44 am

Well, so much for that working. Didn't see the YouTube button until AFTER I hit submit *shrugs*. C'est la vie.


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24 Jun 2010, 12:45 am

Katatonic wrote:
Well, so much for that working. Didn't see the YouTube button until AFTER I hit submit *shrugs*. C'est la vie.


You can edit your posts. :)