Could aspies ever be bullies

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When I was a kid, I bullied a little bit but was bullied by others far worse. Many kids who are bullied get caught in what I think of as the bully trap. They are part of that cycle. Even when you try to ignore the bullies, it's difficult because you want to retaliate by insulting them, but when you do, they just think of worse ways to respond. It's like a game to them. Bullying inflicts emotional damage, but when it escalates, it can lead to physical violence, sometimes suicide.
That's why I believe in the non bullying pact. Everyone participates to diminish bullying so that it cannot escalate. Bullying should be discouraged and not tolerated.
So, there's that sort of bullying, the retaliatory type, and Aspies might be involved in that. Some could be the initial bullies as well.

I hear it's called a pecking order. Someone gets picked on, so they turn around and do it to others so they feel better. Kids also bully just so they fit in which is also a pecking order.

Sadly I was one However I did not to be nasty but instead I'd (mostly as I'd sometimes also try and get my own back on others) bully the bullys if you get what I mean....

Also when I spent some time at a spaceal needs school I knew two Aspie kids (one boy and one girl) where the boy would sometimes bully his girlfriend into playing with him.

I don't think that me meant to bully her however as they (being kids) got on so well that they planned to get married when they grew up.

There are some other stories I can tell but I'll come back onto this subject (as it's a very good one) and tell you some more.


Gooddye Till, next time

At school, I used to be bullied a lot, and now I am a bully. Life makes you like that. I am not sorry for hurting others, all thanks to my AS and my gift of a non conscience!

True that, there is a clear pecking order everywhere you go, in the home, the work place, school etc. Although many schools have their own anti bullying policy, they never work since the hierarchy is pretty obvious even if there isn't any overt bullying. Some people will be more popular than others, there's always that one person who has that influence over everyone else and who dares not follow him/her suffers the consequences (I think a lot of us here are aware of that.)
I love how people like to think of themselves as civilised and sophisticated when at the same time doing s**t like this, like a bunch of chickens (hence the "pecking" order).

Ok I'm back, now heres a new angle for you all to think about....

Have any of you attacked a schoolteacher?

As quite a few bullies do this also....

In my case (as a child) I would sometimes attack teachers when I was having a meltdown, or if they did not understand my AS, happly most of my teachers did try to understand, but as with everyone else here I did know a few as*hole ones who just had it comeing

This is something I recomend to any of you who are still at school as (in the UK at least) any attenpt for them to defened themselves will result in there going to jail!

I know it's sad but if ou do it to a evil teacher then that's ok.

Goodbye, Till Next Time

I hope you're not equating the AS and the "gift" of the non conscience. Autistic people who aren't also sociopaths have consciences.

That makes you a sociopath, not AS. Stop giving those of us with AS a bad name please.

I was labled as a bully when I was actualy trying to defend myself and eventualy I would lash out at anyone for just looking at me because I figured it was better to be the bully than to be the victim.

I was a bully for a little while in middle school because I was mimicking people I thought were "cool", then I found out one of the kids I picked on was being beat up at home and I never did it again, I still feel terrible about it.

I was hoping he was joking.

I don't really consider that bullying. Controlling or domineering behavior isn't always a case of bullying. Sometimes it's just a case of bad social skills, selfishness, or lack of empathy. In this case hurting others is not the direct intent. There is no malice involved.

Bullying is a deliberate predatory type behavior with purely malicious intent. The goal is to provoke an emotional reaction from or diminish the self-worth of another human being through humiliation or fear.

There are different forms of AS, some are more subdued and quiet and while others can be devious or worse. Look at Gary McKinnon and what he did with those computers and look at the killer of Rosie Storrie, he had AS.

A person with AS can be a sociopath just like an NT can be one. They are two different things, but it's not impossible to have AS and be a sociopath as well.

Surely though, until they know what causes AS or until they find a cure, who's to say what other AS mysteries lie under the surface. Saying that AS people can't be sociopaths is just the medical profession's way of telling it self that they have nothing to fear from Aspies, when in fact they do.

I bullied once. As the boy laid there on the grass crying, I saw myself in that exact position.

I've never done it again.