Penn and Teller on Vaccinations and Autism

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If there are drugs and chemicals that can cause autism in utero, why cant a drug and chemical cause autism out of utero? Assulting a baby with 3 viruses and aluminum and fermeldahyde and mercury cant cause harm?

That!

They took it out of the MMR because that is what people were screaming about. Contrary to popular belief, thimerosal is STILL in vaccinations.

Dtap schedule....
Children should get 5 doses of DTaP vaccine, one dose at each of the following ages:
2 months
4 months
6 months
15-18 months
4-6 years

By the time they are 18 months they have had FOUR doses of that stuff!

Flu Shot

6 months!

Hep A

Who should get vaccinated against Hepatitis A?
Hepatitis A vaccination is recommended for:

•All children at age 1 year

Hep B

Birth - 2 months of
age
1 - 4 months of age
(at least 1 month after
first dose)
6 - 18 months of age

Now, if we follow the schedule like good little sheep do, that leaves our children with how many shots containing mercury by the time they are 2? That is 9 shots, and this isnt even all the shots they get. 9 shots by the time they are 18 months and another one if they get another flu shot.... THAT is crazy. Mercury builds up in the body. Look up mercury poisoning. The symptoms are IDENTICLE to autism.

Now, this is not to say that vaccinations are the ONLY cause. But to dismiss it completely when alot of people have their hands in the money jar is crazy. There is to much information and story after story of mothers watching their children regress. My son was different from birth. I knew he was different from the get go, he wasnt like my other kids. However, he had alot of trauma at birth having a double wrapped cord plus a true knot in his cord which causes death most of the time. He then had a stroke at birth and his left vocal cord was paralysed (It is fine now). So with his problems, there is alot that could be going on. Something caused autism traits in him, who knows what. But at least I can rule out vaccinations.

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Penn and Teller have always annoyed me. The arrogance puts me off. I can't stand to watch Penn blather on and on like a know it all. But his arrogance works for some people and they can tolerate him and when he's talking about something that's right, it's right. Unfortunately, he sounds the same when he's saying something that's wrong. But this is entertainment television and this is people. Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong. This is why it's important for individuals to do their own research and form their own opinions. It certainly never hurts, right or wrong, for someone to bring attention to an issue.

For example, how else would we all know that birth certificates don't disclose any religious preference if Donald Trump didn't blather on about how the President's birth certificate might say he's Muslim? Entertainers serve a purpose, when they're right (like Penn and Teller about Autism and Vaccinations) and when they're wrong (like The Donald about anything).

"Now, I'm not saying that Obama allows clowns to smoke pot in the Secretary of State's office closet while she's out of the country. I have no evidence to support such a claim. I'm just saying that nobody has ever said about there not being clowns in Clinton's office closet and nobody's ever spoken against clowns smoking pot. So, I mean, this might be something to look into here." - Glenn Beck*




* Okay, Glenn Beck didn't really say that. But you know he could have. In fact, if I send it to him as a fifteen minute feature, I bet he'll buy it off me.

Because autism is caused by a difference in neurological structure, and once the structure of a brain is set, which happens before birth, nothing short of surgery or blunt-force trauma will change it. You can't change the ratio of white cells to grey cells, or the number of columnar structures in the prefrontal cortex, or the size and shape of the amygdala, or the workings of the hippocampus, by injecting drugs. Sufficient drugs can interfere with neurotransmitters - but that will have the effect of either suppressing or enhancing their effects, not changing the basic structure of the brain itself.

Did we all get it THIS time, or am I condemned to keep repeating the same information to the same people who won't freaking listen until the end of time?

Autism is preferable to death from a preventable illness.

I hope the last part of this is just the *coming off as rude and not realizing it*. Horrible debate practices if you want people to listen to you.

IF your thoughts are right, which I dont think they are, but we will give you the benefit of the doubt, then perhaps alot of cases of autism are not autism. Maybe it is something that is causing autism traits. Maybe all these kids who are being diagnosed with autism (which is done by a head doctor LOOKING at you, studying you, your patterns, feelings, emotional state, NOT your brain structure) really have mercury poisoning and it is causing all the same symptoms. You cant deny the facts. There are children who are normal, and one day change after vaccines. Person after person has seen it. It happens. I dont believe autism is ONLY caused by vaccinations, but I also dont think it should be discounted as a very real possibility. My son wasnt vaccinated and here I am dealing with a autism spectrum disorder. Go figure!

Just because the vaccines happen at the same time as the traits occur doesn't mean anything. Autistic traits often become apparent or more apparent at that age, vaccinated or not. That's just how it is, and the vaccines happen to be given at about the same time. To some people it makes it seem like the vaccines caused it.. But correlation doesn't equal causation.

At 7 months old I knew my son was different. People have TALKING 2 year olds who STOP talking. The day vaccinations are given. I have 4 kids. Vaccinations came up and I did alot of research on it. I am not usually hippie like, but this was something that was huge. I looked at both sides of the coin. I decided against it. If I decided to go to africa, you can bet your bottom we would be vaccinating. No questions. But I am not afraid of the chicken pox, hepetitis for a baby who isnt injecting drugs or working in health care ect. They seem like a unresonable risk. My MIL became epileptic at 11 years old after vaccinations. Causation or corralation? Not sure, but another thing I am not willing to risk. I think vaccinations are the CAUSE of many childhood illnesses.

A lot of autistic people regress like that. Just because your son was obviously different at an earlier age doesn't mean that that's true of all people who are born autistic. Even as adults there are plenty of people who get less functional when stress is introduced(as a young child there is constantly more and more stress being introduced).

I've tried being polite and reasonable, mummy. It doesn't work. Either I am completely ignored, or someone comes back with something ignorant like "mercury poisoning". (Have you ever tried LOOKING UP the symptoms of mercury poisoning? They are NOTHING LIKE AUTISM!!)

Just this once, I'm actually letting my frustration at this profoundly unscientific, uneducated mindset air itself, rather than sitting back like a good boy and letting the antivaxers think they're actually scoring points.

There's more mercury in a tuna sandwich.. Don't eat tuna, you're going to become autistic! Lol.

I dont recall ever talking to you about it... SO how do you know it wont work lol. I am not mean spirited or a know it all. Ive looked at both sides. I am antivax for US but dont judge others for doing it. I think each parent makes the choices for their children they think is best. No one does things to purposely hurt their children.

I'm still not sure why this issue is so black or white. Why isn't anyone exploring a third option? Or, why are people being derailed for suggesting a third option?

Penn and Teller - how ever snarky and superior they may be - are probably right. Vaccines aren't causing autism. Vaccines, individually, have a very high safety record.

Maybe, just maybe, there is something else gonig on in a record number of kids... something medical, that mimicks the symptoms of autism. We know autism can't be cured. But some of these kids are being 'cured'. Maybe what they are being cured of ISN'T autism but something else...

Penn's arguments are the best I have heard on the issue. The study linking vaccines to autism was proven false and Jenny McCarthy still continues her evilness. What will it take to get her and the Antivaxers to just SHUT UP?