Psychiatrist appointment tomorrow- what meds to avoid?

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18 Aug 2010, 10:45 am

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Update:

The psychiatrist said I was just stressed and did not need meds.


You must be really disappointed with that result, lotusblossom. I'm sorry. I know you were looking for some relief.

If you want to talk, feel free to PM me. I know we have some things in common. Take care!

yes Im very disapointed and frustrated, especially as they were running behind and I had to wait 2 hours!! ! I nearly went crazy waiting, it was awful, and then just to be dismissed, very frustrating.

Thanks for the offer of pming, thats very kind of you. Unfortunatley I find pming distressful so tend to not do it. Thanks for the kind offer though :sunny:



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18 Aug 2010, 10:47 am

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Update:

The psychiatrist said I was just stressed and did not need meds.


Just out of curiosity, did he say that because you haven't been depressed long enough?

The psychiatrist said, I had no depression and was just stressed and anxious and the best thing for that is CBT not meds, Im on the waiting list for CBT already so she said I didnt need to see the mental health team again.



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18 Aug 2010, 10:56 am

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Thanks for the offer of pming, thats very kind of you.


You're welcome. Good luck! :sunny:


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18 Aug 2010, 11:14 am

Do you agree with that? Or do you think you have anxiety? Or depression?

Sounds to me you have some kind of thing going on and not just stress. I know some docs are like talking to a wall. :twisted:



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18 Aug 2010, 11:51 am

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Do you agree with that? Or do you think you have anxiety? Or depression?

Sounds to me you have some kind of thing going on and not just stress. I know some docs are like talking to a wall. :twisted:

I have difficulty showing my emotions and difficulty answering questions that are not specific enough, and difficulty understanding what they are refering to. I think this means that profecionals get the impression that I dont have problems/difficulties when I just have not understood the question.

I think I probably have a mixed state (agitated depression)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_episode

my mum has been saying for the last year or so she thinks I have this (she is a mental health nurse).

However the mental nurse who assessed me earlier in the year said I was not depressed as I was too agitated and still did chores. The psychiatrist I saw today said the same thing, she said my mood did not seem down and I was still doing things (despite me dropping my uni courses!). I can only suppose this is because my sad feelings do not show in my expressions.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:12 pm

The same thing happened with my last doc. My current doc knows and even said people don't always express every feeling and you still have to listen to them.

My old doc claimed I had NO depression for those years where I was the most depressed. Actually I was basically non functional. She still claimed I had no signs, and as long as you don't look depressed, you are not. I asked her finally what a depressed person looks like. They are unkept like smelly and messy hair (Sure I've been that but I rather cancel than go outside like that, I still have some pride!), they cry all the time (I rarely cry and never in front of people!) and they answer sluggishly with a delay (I still spoke normally). I could say whatever and she wouldn't listen because I didn't present with the right symptoms. I said I wished I was dead. She laughed and told me not to exaggerate...

I HATE when they can't look more on the inside and actually listen. Especially if they KNOW people have ASD and might not show depression, pain or whatnot on the outside the same as NT. Don't they have any education?

Same with wide questions. I never knew how to answer. I finally learned I refuse to answer and demand they narrow things down to something I can actually answer. Usually I do this nicely. Some people fail to understand what Make it concrete, and Narrow it down, means, though.

Also they should be able to recognize a mixed episode. But I think if they are busy they want everyone out the door that they can pretend is OK.

Actually I've been outright manic when seeing a doc, and the response I got was, Nice you are doing WELL... Another doc said I have never been manic because I never spent all my money.

They shouldn't set up silly rules for the expression of emotional disorders, they should know they can present differently. And foremost, if someone SAYS they are not doing well, they need to fricken LISTEN. People usually don't make those things up.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:25 pm

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The same thing happened with my last doc. My current doc knows and even said people don't always express every feeling and you still have to listen to them.

My old doc claimed I had NO depression for those years where I was the most depressed. Actually I was basically non functional. She still claimed I had no signs, and as long as you don't look depressed, you are not. I asked her finally what a depressed person looks like. They are unkept like smelly and messy hair (Sure I've been that but I rather cancel than go outside like that, I still have some pride!), they cry all the time (I rarely cry and never in front of people!) and they answer sluggishly with a delay (I still spoke normally). I could say whatever and she wouldn't listen because I didn't present with the right symptoms. I said I wished I was dead. She laughed and told me not to exaggerate...

I HATE when they can't look more on the inside and actually listen. Especially if they KNOW people have ASD and might not show depression, pain or whatnot on the outside the same as NT. Don't they have any education?

Same with wide questions. I never knew how to answer. I finally learned I refuse to answer and demand they narrow things down to something I can actually answer. Usually I do this nicely. Some people fail to understand what Make it concrete, and Narrow it down, means, though.

Also they should be able to recognize a mixed episode. But I think if they are busy they want everyone out the door that they can pretend is OK.

Actually I've been outright manic when seeing a doc, and the response I got was, Nice you are doing WELL... Another doc said I have never been manic because I never spent all my money.

They shouldn't set up silly rules for the expression of emotional disorders, they should know they can present differently. And foremost, if someone SAYS they are not doing well, they need to fricken LISTEN. People usually don't make those things up.

Yes! Thats it exactly!

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My old doc claimed I had NO depression for those years where I was the most depressed. Actually I was basically non functional. She still claimed I had no signs, and as long as you don't look depressed, you are not. I asked her finally what a depressed person looks like. They are unkept like smelly and messy hair (Sure I've been that but I rather cancel than go outside like that, I still have some pride!), they cry all the time (I rarely cry and never in front of people!) and they answer sluggishly with a delay (I still spoke normally). I could say whatever and she wouldn't listen because I didn't present with the right symptoms. I said I wished I was dead. She laughed and told me not to exaggerate...

thats exactly what happened and exactly what she said, except I have pressured speach (which is a sign of mixed state) but is held against me as a sign I dont have depression.

I really dont know what to do now, I was holding out for that appointment as a last hope.

I shall have to re evaluate everything and decide what to do next, whether to seek other help, get some more self help books or if I need to face up to giving up my children. I just cant carry on as I am.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:34 pm

If you do better with writing (I assume so since you make good posts), maybe you could write and explain where you felt things went wrong.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:36 pm

I'll add, maybe a mood stabilizer would help you. I know it's not a cure all, but Lamictal really helped me for the time I wasn't still allergic to it.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:42 pm

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If you do better with writing (I assume so since you make good posts), maybe you could write and explain where you felt things went wrong.


I might ask my mum to phone them and advocate for me on this, me and her have not been on speaking terms for the last 4 months but she might be motivated to do this for me to 'improve' me and make me less difficult.

Ive reached the end of my capability for self advocay now and just feel defeated, but maybe I will feel better tomorrow after the adrenalin and stress has worn off.

I will try writing a letter.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:46 pm

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I shall have to re evaluate everything and decide what to do next, whether to seek other help, get some more self help books or if I need to face up to giving up my children. I just cant carry on as I am.

A lot of this thread has been about all the trial and error required to find the right meds. The same is true with finding the right doctor. If you can go see someone else, then I would do that. Trying to get a doctor to change his/her mind or listen when they have already dismissed your concerns usually only leads to more stress.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:50 pm

It sure does.

Depends if one can change doctors. If waiting that long I sort of guess this was the only doc, but hopefully I'm wrong.



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18 Aug 2010, 12:54 pm

no I dont think I can change doctors, as you just see the one who is free that day, I saw a different one today than who was on my appointment letter. They may change their minds if my mum speaks to them as she is a mental nurse. I dont know I just feel so tired of it all.



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18 Aug 2010, 1:04 pm

I had to stop taking effexor because of the bad side effects, was getting very bad night terrors, was also getting serotonin syndrome and facial twitches and lots of teeth grinding.
I went off them cold turkey and it was horrible, was having those brain shocks and severe dizziness. I only take dexedrine for my ADD these days.



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18 Aug 2010, 1:08 pm

lotusblossom wrote:
frag wrote:
If you do better with writing (I assume so since you make good posts), maybe you could write and explain where you felt things went wrong.


I might ask my mum to phone them and advocate for me on this, me and her have not been on speaking terms for the last 4 months but she might be motivated to do this for me to 'improve' me and make me less difficult.

Ive reached the end of my capability for self advocay now and just feel defeated, but maybe I will feel better tomorrow after the adrenalin and stress has worn off.

I will try writing a letter.

emailed my mum and she said she wouldnt do it :?



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18 Aug 2010, 1:22 pm

Wow, you don't seem to have loads of luck right now.

I feel quite angry with those inconsiderate people... :evil: