Why are many people happy to be diagnosed with AS?

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21 Aug 2010, 8:58 pm

Now there's a good idea. Pour some gasoline on that fire!


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21 Aug 2010, 9:07 pm

It's helped me because my classmates have always insisted that I deserved the bullying and teasing I got from them because of my anti-social behavior (which makes me the bad guy in their eyes). I really took it seriously and became very suicidal.

Because of my AS diagnosis I know now that none of this is my fault. However I am bitter because nobody seems to even care even when I tell them I have it. Especially my family, they insist that my behaviors and habits can be fixed.



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21 Aug 2010, 9:13 pm

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I am not saying you are wrong, I am just curious. Usually, people don't get happy when they are diagnosed with a mental illness or a disability.


Um. The diagnosis didn't GIVE us Aspergers or Autism. We had that before.

People with AS know they're different, usually from a very young age. Being diagnosed merely gives us the terminology to describe ourselves.


I beg to differ. Being diagnosed means you have a disease. If you don't have a disease, you don't get diagnosed. Not everything different is disease.



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21 Aug 2010, 9:16 pm

MrXxx wrote:
Now there's a good idea. Pour some gasoline on that fire!


I love anonymous forums :)



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21 Aug 2010, 9:33 pm

I haven't been officially diagnosed yet, as the shrinks that I've been to have been hostile as*holes so far... I'm going to a specialist for testing soon but she is really expensive... :(

I'm not at all thrilled about it, I don't think I understand you folks that are. I never knew I had it, I wish I didn't, and all my life I've been trying to figure out why I'm so damn strange and different from everyone else. I never knew AS existed until my wife (psych major) learned about it in a developmental psych class last semester, and it feels like I just got hit with a huge mallet when I think about it. It's a combination of being super pissed off and the world and myself, annoyed at the huge amounts of trials and pain I've been through because of this, and hesitation at even taking this label on myself. So far, only my wife and mother know what I have, and I'm not thrilled about letting anyone else know, because I think I'll be stigmatized constantly by whoever knows. I want to "get rid" of this however I can, and I know many of you have developed yourself right out of being noticeably AS. I have worked for my entire teen and adult life to develop into someone that can understand what it is that is actually going on around me, and though I still have huge trials ahead of myself, and will probably never get over certain things (understanding speech properly, NT humor at a lot of things, taking things literally), I think I can "pretend" enough on the social areas right now that I have some hope of "normalcy" in this area someday.

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Not happy about it.



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21 Aug 2010, 9:36 pm

It gave me another special interest, to throw myself into. I also know, that I wasn't lazy, dumb or obnoxious.


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21 Aug 2010, 9:51 pm

FAss wrote:
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I am not saying you are wrong, I am just curious. Usually, people don't get happy when they are diagnosed with a mental illness or a disability.


Um. The diagnosis didn't GIVE us Aspergers or Autism. We had that before.

People with AS know they're different, usually from a very young age. Being diagnosed merely gives us the terminology to describe ourselves.


I beg to differ. Being diagnosed means you have a disease. If you don't have a disease, you don't get diagnosed. Not everything different is disease.

That doesn't make any sense.



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21 Aug 2010, 10:31 pm

Autism is not a disease. It's a pervasive developmental disorder. It is not contagious. it doesn't spread throughout your body, or from person to person.


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21 Aug 2010, 10:42 pm

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I don't understand why the OP has 6 posts and declares people are happy to be diagnosed as autistic. Where did you gather your assumptions from? The internet or actual people you've met? Did they say that they were happy or did you come to the conclusion that because someone openly admitted they were autistic that it must mean they have no shame and are happy? Why should any of us feel ashamed? I also hear that more autistic children are out in the open playing at the playgrounds with other children, eating at restaurants, going to stores with their parents and going to the zoo with all of the non autistic children. Do you feel parents should hide those kids from public viewing? If so, what are your reasons?


Hi flyingkittycat,
I would like to clear up any confusion. I never suggested anyone should be ashamed about being autistic. I just wondered why some people (not all of them) are only happy once they get diagnosed with AS and are not happy before that. In addition, a few people on this forum get disappointed when a health professional tells them they do not have it. I do a lot of reading here, just don't post that much.
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with not being diagnosed with anything at all as long as you get help for your specific problems. Those problems don't really need to be united into a syndrome, and sometimes they are not medical problems at all, just common everyday problems.


Okay, sorry that I misunderstood.

From my own experience, I was shocked when diagnosed. It was a roller coaster of disbelief and understanding why I reacted the way I did, why I behaved the way I did. I was more moderate scale as a kid and through teen years. Now as an adult after getting assessed by two professionals, things that I didn't understand before finally became understood and through that I was able to make more of an effort to try to do something about it.

I still have problems but not near as much as I used to. I am now considered mild.

Having said that, I am not into groups or herd mentality. For the first time in my life, I am okay with being me and more comfortable. I went from barely saying anything to anyone to being able to do one on one conversation with ease. I still can't do the group conversations. Too many sounds to process and it's difficult to keep up with what everyone is saying. People talk alot in those scenerios and there is no clear answer to me when I am able to speak.



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21 Aug 2010, 11:04 pm

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I was happy that I finally knew what was wrong with me. I was happy that I wasn't the only person on the planet that felt the way I did and that I wasn't broken or defective. Also, it's become one of my major interests so I was happy to have something new to research and obsess over. I wasn't happy that it was something permanent and had been affecting my life in a lot of ways I never realised.



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Dumbass, idiot, lout, freak, jerk, weirdo, oddball, schmuck, lazy, senseless, stubborn, out-of-touch, emotionally ret*d, unfeeling, callous, selfish, whiny, useless, weak, standoffish, shy, socially inept, snob, elitist, dreamer, brain damaged, different, procrastinator, nut, eccentric, eclectic, crackpot, scary, overgrown child, stupid, head-in-the-clouds, sh*t fer brains, strange, clumsy, loon, user, rebel, problem child, odd-man-out, goofball, douchebag, card, character, oaf, throwback, insubordinate, uncooperative, @ssh*le..

Just a few of the terms used to describe me over the course of my life by people I've known, including my parents, many of my teachers and almost all of my employers to name a few, and not one of them was smiling when they said it.

After all that, to realize that what they were all describing was not me - it was their reaction to my Autism - was a tremendous and cathartic relief. Not happy that I had Autism, but happy to discover that my differences from the rest of the world HAD A NAME AND A CAUSE, and others were having these problems, too.

QFT.

And yes, I absorbed all these critiques into myself. The only people suggesting otherwise, after all, were my parents, hardly a disinterested source - and when the entire rest of your world agrees on the point, it's kind of hard to just shrug and say, "You're the one with the problem," even when it's the truth.


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22 Aug 2010, 12:04 am

buryuntime wrote:
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I am not saying you are wrong, I am just curious. Usually, people don't get happy when they are diagnosed with a mental illness or a disability.


Um. The diagnosis didn't GIVE us Aspergers or Autism. We had that before.

People with AS know they're different, usually from a very young age. Being diagnosed merely gives us the terminology to describe ourselves.


I beg to differ. Being diagnosed means you have a disease. If you don't have a disease, you don't get diagnosed. Not everything different is disease.

That doesn't make any sense.


To be more specific: you can only be diagnosed with a disease, not with being different or a terminology to describe yourself.



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22 Aug 2010, 12:08 am

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Autism is not a disease. It's a pervasive developmental disorder. It is not contagious. it doesn't spread throughout your body, or from person to person.


The word "disorder" implies "disease" (or "illness" if you prefer, basically something pathologic in your body). Not all diseases are contagious.



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22 Aug 2010, 12:10 am

I also dont get why so many people are happy. All i know is that autism is not lupus.



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22 Aug 2010, 12:16 am

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To be more specific: you can only be diagnosed with a disease, not with being different or a terminology to describe yourself.

That doesn't make any sense either. The term normal can be used as: "(psychology) being approximately average or within certain limits in e.g. intelligence and development". If you aren't normal in areas like these, it means different. The label just signifies that your brain is different (at least with autism.)

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The word "disorder" implies "disease" (or "illness" if you prefer, basically something pathologic in your body). Not all diseases are contagious.

Troll? If you're seriously a long time lurker here you would also have noticed the bottom of the webpage states "Asperger's is not a disease". Diseases are things to be eradicated.



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22 Aug 2010, 1:36 am

buryuntime wrote:
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To be more specific: you can only be diagnosed with a disease, not with being different or a terminology to describe yourself.

That doesn't make any sense either. The term normal can be used as: "(psychology) being approximately average or within certain limits in e.g. intelligence and development". If you aren't normal in areas like these, it means different. The label just signifies that your brain is different (at least with autism.)

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The word "disorder" implies "disease" (or "illness" if you prefer, basically something pathologic in your body). Not all diseases are contagious.

Troll? If you're seriously a long time lurker here you would also have noticed the bottom of the webpage states "Asperger's is not a disease". Diseases are things to be eradicated.


I resisted posting here because the answer to his question seemed rather obvious. Indeed, he has received the answer from multiple sources. I have to agree with buryuntime's assessment that the OP is merely trolling.

The term 'disorder' implies an alteration to normal function. Short-sightedness is a 'disorder' of normal vision. Dwarfism is a 'disorder' of normal growth. Sterility is a 'disorder' of normal reproductive function. None of these are indicative of a disease.



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22 Aug 2010, 1:51 am

You can't cure something that's not a disease. Autism is a disorder, not a disease, or an illness. Somebody, point out the difference to the OP, please?


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