NT's scared of us?
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Yanks28th wrote:
aspcmac wrote:
I'm raising a question which seems to be accurate that NT's are scared of us. To them we are so weird, they cant understand us, and it freaks them out. Any opinions?
Sort of. It's not that there scared, it's really that there are all these little signals that they're not even aware off that are telling them something is wrong. NT's are not aware of all the social rules (conciously), it's automatic. When someone doesn't do eye contact, when they give off bad body language or they make other social mistakes, they make the NT suspicious, even if the NT doesn't know why. This can be alleviated if you tell the NT you are Autistic, because then they understand and realize that it's not like your a threat, you just communicate differently.
and from my own experiences saying that you are on the spectrum can make thiings worse, and there are plenty of people on here that know what I mean.
Really? In what way?
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One person at my work was proud he could 'read' people. But the problem for him was my body language and behaviour was not really 'standard'; so he could not read me. He was not friendly to me, when I look back it could be he was afraid of me; because he could not predict me
I hate a friend say similarly about me. He could scare people by being able to "read" them instantly. He could tell you about your upbringing, your relationships, everything. But he couldn't read me. He said I came across as reserved and naive, but some comments I made speak the exact opposite and the two create a contradiction he couldn't puzzle out. I do wonder if sometimes this is the root of unease in many people toward aspies. They can't do that instant social take-off they can with most people. I think I worry most people, because my behaviour is so different.
jec6613 wrote:
People are afraid of the unknown and what they do not or cannot understand. It would not surprise me to find an NT who is afraid of someone on the spectrum.
I've never known anybody to actually be afraid of me (not to say that it hasn't happened), but I do know that people are sometimes intimidated by me at work, mostly because my primary special interest and job are the same field.
And I know I've definitely creeped out some NTs as well.
I've never known anybody to actually be afraid of me (not to say that it hasn't happened), but I do know that people are sometimes intimidated by me at work, mostly because my primary special interest and job are the same field.
And I know I've definitely creeped out some NTs as well.
Exactly what Storm said to Jubilee in the first episode of X-Men.
I've come to realize that--due to our overall inability to register body language vibes from people and/or give them off--we pretty much come off to most people as creepy and disturbing as Gordon Jump did as the child molester from the episode of Diff'rent Strokes "the Bicycle Man"; No, I'm not saying we're as bad as child molesters...but I'm saying we come off as creepy as that; at least I think we do.
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Yanks28th wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Yanks28th wrote:
aspcmac wrote:
I'm raising a question which seems to be accurate that NT's are scared of us. To them we are so weird, they cant understand us, and it freaks them out. Any opinions?
Sort of. It's not that there scared, it's really that there are all these little signals that they're not even aware off that are telling them something is wrong. NT's are not aware of all the social rules (conciously), it's automatic. When someone doesn't do eye contact, when they give off bad body language or they make other social mistakes, they make the NT suspicious, even if the NT doesn't know why. This can be alleviated if you tell the NT you are Autistic, because then they understand and realize that it's not like your a threat, you just communicate differently.
and from my own experiences saying that you are on the spectrum can make thiings worse, and there are plenty of people on here that know what I mean.
Really? In what way?
there have been plenty of examples on the forums look around and you will find plenty of examples.. People have announced they are on the spectrum to gain understanding, and the person will just use that against them and such. That and with media portrayal and such, they wont necessarily understand. They can in fact believe you to be even more of a problem. It all depends upon the individual. Hell, people have lost partners and friends over announcing it so really. Hell, people have gotten physically and mentally beaten over it as well.
Hell, announcing it can prevent you from getting a job, or make work hell until you either rage and get fired or simply quit.
I definitely don't prescribe to the rose colored glasses/optimism for a reason. People who believe humanity is inheritantly good, those people baffle me. I prescribe to the "humans are complete bastards/Humans are neutral" train of thought. And really,people may not like pessimism, but it does work, as its toughened me up to get through these BS situations.
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DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Yanks28th wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
Yanks28th wrote:
aspcmac wrote:
I'm raising a question which seems to be accurate that NT's are scared of us. To them we are so weird, they cant understand us, and it freaks them out. Any opinions?
Sort of. It's not that there scared, it's really that there are all these little signals that they're not even aware off that are telling them something is wrong. NT's are not aware of all the social rules (conciously), it's automatic. When someone doesn't do eye contact, when they give off bad body language or they make other social mistakes, they make the NT suspicious, even if the NT doesn't know why. This can be alleviated if you tell the NT you are Autistic, because then they understand and realize that it's not like your a threat, you just communicate differently.
and from my own experiences saying that you are on the spectrum can make thiings worse, and there are plenty of people on here that know what I mean.
Really? In what way?
there have been plenty of examples on the forums look around and you will find plenty of examples.. People have announced they are on the spectrum to gain understanding, and the person will just use that against them and such. That and with media portrayal and such, they wont necessarily understand. They can in fact believe you to be even more of a problem. It all depends upon the individual. Hell, people have lost partners and friends over announcing it so really. Hell, people have gotten physically and mentally beaten over it as well.
Hell, announcing it can prevent you from getting a job, or make work hell until you either rage and get fired or simply quit.
I definitely don't prescribe to the rose colored glasses/optimism for a reason. People who believe humanity is inheritantly good, those people baffle me. I prescribe to the "humans are complete bastards/Humans are neutral" train of thought. And really,people may not like pessimism, but it does work, as its toughened me up to get through these BS situations.
It's always been different for me for a few reasons. First I'm only 17, so my interactions are very different from the majority of the site. Second, I have very good social skills for an Aspy (about average for a Neurotypical because I constantly train myself every day of the past 5 years), so I really only tell them but explains the occasional incident that they would otherwise not understand. Third, I always talk about it as a gift and a curse (Gift because of the intelligence), and so I'm not portraying it as a disability. Finally, I do a lot of work with kids with medium-lower functioning autism, and since it's usually brought up in that context, people view it as a good thing and are impressed at how I use it to help others.