The Eradication Project. They found ASD gene.

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19 Sep 2010, 12:05 am

I posted this on another thread but I think also applies to this thread.

They might be able to understand how the autism gene works one day and use it to manipulate an embroy's genes to make more creative artists, scientists, or even a more charismatic NT. We could one day see a genetic caste system. I think it was the Myans who had their professions chosen for them depending on what day of the month they were born on. With the proper gene therapy we could make this happen. I do not think we are going to evolve anymore then what we all ready are. Any new genetic leg up will be seen as a mutation or horrible deformity and they will simply erase it with genetic gene therapy like they will probably do with autism. 20 years from now the modern nations who can afford to screen for genetic problems like autism will see a decline in autistic types who think differently and perhaps better than average NT. These are the people needed for the great advancements in technology and art. The third world countries who can not afford to screen their children will become the new masters of technology and inovation thanks to their autistic thinkers they will be the new overlords of the planet we aspies will have the last laugh at the NTs and their fear of autism.


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19 Sep 2010, 3:06 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
I'd rather be alive and autistic, than an abortion statistic.


How poetic. :)

I agree. The people who abort their kids, because of a fear of disability, are just cowards. For all they know, their kids might have eventually gone on to succeed in life anyway, in spite of their disability. But these people are just too scared to believe in that possibility, too scared to have faith in their ability as parents, or too scared to have faith in their own children's abilities.

I consider their cowardice to be an inheritable disability too, whether it's genetic or whether it's in the way people raise their kids. So maybe these people just shouldn't have any children at all. We don't need them to pass on their cowardly genes into our future, or reproduce cowardly children, who will suffer so much more than anyone who simply has autism.



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19 Sep 2010, 5:30 am

Invader wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
I'd rather be alive and autistic, than an abortion statistic.


How poetic. :)

I agree. The people who abort their kids, because of a fear of disability, are just cowards. For all they know, their kids might have eventually gone on to succeed in life anyway, in spite of their disability. But these people are just too scared to believe in that possibility, too scared to have faith in their ability as parents, or too scared to have faith in their own children's abilities.

I consider their cowardice to be an inheritable disability too, whether it's genetic or whether it's in the way people raise their kids. So maybe these people just shouldn't have any children at all. We don't need them to pass on their cowardly genes into our future, or reproduce cowardly children, who will suffer so much more than anyone who simply has autism.


That depends on what the disorder was.

Asperger or HFA? Yeah...that's cowardly. Those with ASD can get help and have lives like everyone else. But say you knew for sure that your kid would be profoundly LFA and would never be able to do anything for himself except poop in his pants and maybe learn enough motor skills to feed himself? I don't think it's cowardice to refrain from having such a child. I think it's *kindness*.


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19 Sep 2010, 10:00 am

We may have to breed billions of LFA's but that would be the neccissary step to producing stable gene combinations and successfull genetic examples. All developing ''breeds'' from controled genetic populations have what they call in commercial pet breeding ''throw aways''.

This is just the neccissary process towards developing the human population.

These people are increadibly valuable - they are the ''missing link'' (LFA's)



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19 Sep 2010, 10:13 am

ninszot wrote:
We may have to breed billions of LFA's but that would be the neccissary step to producing stable gene combinations and successfull genetic examples. All developing ''breeds'' from controled genetic populations have what they call in commercial pet breeding ''throw aways''.

This is just the neccissary process towards developing the human population.

These people are increadibly valuable - they are the ''missing link'' (LFA's)


Aspies are not a breed ! There are many other genetic conditions existing among human beings but none should be considered as a breed, just a difference. Being autistic is a genetic difference like being blond albino, if you are thinking about aspies as a breed then that must mean that you think it would be great to control the population in order to meet standards.

I really hope this kind of thing won't happen. We should not put people into category according to their genes. It's as bad as skin colour discrimination.



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19 Sep 2010, 10:31 am

Controle is not neccessary, they have determined that at least some of the mutations are dominant. It is a natural course of evolution. But the terms used by people working with genetic populations is usefull if you are to consider the possibility that we may be developing into something more distinct. It gives you a way to speak about it.

- without getting mixed up in the highly emotional politics of racism and eugenics

But if you want to go there, it is the NT's who have been torturing and killing autistics, epileptics etc, for the last 1000 years or more, not the other way around.



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19 Sep 2010, 10:51 am

ninszot wrote:
Controle is not neccessary, they have determined that at least some of the mutations are dominant. It is a natural course of evolution. But the terms used by people working with genetic populations is usefull if you are to consider the possibility that we may be developing into something more distinct. It gives you a way to speak about it.

- without getting mixed up in the highly emotional politics of racism and eugenics

But if you want to go there, it is the NT's who have been torturing and killing autistics, epileptics etc, for the last 1000 years or more, not the other way around.


Sorry, it's just that I see more and more threads about the supremacy of Aspies (in your own messages, by the way, you depicted NTs in a strange way in another thread) and how the world should be autistic on here and it's irritating because we should defend neurodiversity instead of becoming the bullies.

By the way, there was no diagnosis ages ago, many kids who were tortured were also NTs, life was different. The society believed in the supremacy of male for example (and now some people want the female to show their superiority, this kind of behaviour is wrong because it will just start another reign of terror).

I still think that there is a problem with the definition we could give to breeds among human beings in regards of genetic conditions. First, many NTs have autistic children, just like some genetic diseases are recessive and thus the parents do not have them, but furthermore, most people belong to more than "one breed".
I mean, autism is not the only difference you can have because of your genes. Someone who is genetically autistic, dyslexic, gifted (though this one has not been proven), colour blind and myopic for example, would be more like a mix breed than one member of the autistic breed, would not he ?
You may say that I go too far with this, but we have this tendency to put people into category when they truly belong to more than one.

I never understood the concept of breeds (but perhaps that's because it has many defintions and therefore is confusing) in pets either, most dog breeds used to be "mutts" before, their appearance are different but they are still dogs.

As for the HFA/LFA things, well, it's hard to tell for know whether Autism is evolving or not because it was not diagnosed for ages and HFA is still hardly diagnosed.

We see more and more aspies or autistic people just as we see more and more ADHD, dyslexia, etc, because it is now diagnosed.

Genetic is useful but we need more years to know what is truly happening. (And we shouldn't think that one group is superior to another, really I have read that more than once and well...).