Aspie vs NT psychopath!

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Your entire premise collapses on this contradiction of terms.

If a person is 'neurotypical', then by definition that person is not a 'psychopath'.

If a person is a 'psychopath', then by definition that person is not 'neurotypical'.

Unless, of course, you define 'psychopath' as anyone you do not like.

Do you mean 'carrier' as in someone who has a disease but shows no symptoms, or do you mean 'career' as in a life-long occupation or job?

Agreed.
I did mention it, but I didn't want to labour to point, no criticism to you.

Always keeping us on our toes.

Sounds very much like the psychopath I know. I do not know if the fact that a psychopath is not autistic means he is not an NT. I suppose if I have ADD I am not strictly an NT either.

I believe NT people are those who aren't born with some sort of developmental delays that affects the social and/or intellectual development, often referred to as a "disability" or "disorder". NT can also exclude someone who is mentally disabled enough to require support or care, like people with brain injuries or dementia.

Psychopathy is more like a severe personality dysfunction or are deranged, not so much a disorder or disability.

What do they carry? I'd hope even they could aspire to greater careers.

Real psychopaths there are two types I think I’ve met both (not just bullies)

Violent types: have a kind of vortex Presence around them difficult to explain you just feel that person is Physically dangerous, prob includes gangsters, terrorists.

Magnetic type: are very NT and most people are attracted to them socially and romantically these type of males are very attractive to women, they use their charm to get what they want and spit them out. They end up going very far in their career or in politics. Think cult leaders company directors and dictators here.

A lot of terrorists are kids who get drawn towards violent movements because they have a strong but undefined sense of right vs. wrong and don't really feel they belong. This is how a lot of those groups recruit regardless of ideology.

Gangsters who can't control violent urges tend to end up dead at the hands of people they believed were on their side. It's one thing to have no qualms about using violence, it's another to engage in violence needlessly. Needlessly engaging in violence earns one enemies (who will avenge themselves by force) as well as draws attention to the profitable business dealings which are the whole reason why violence might need to be conducted in the first place.
Organized crime doesn't exist in order to commit random acts of violence, it exists to generate profits; when violence is used it is used in order to support those goals, not just because it can be.

Then I am the only NT here....not that it matters of course (whistling emoji)

I agree with this. In some cases psychopaths are "Uber" NTs so could be a trait rather than a personality disorder

Well psychopathy is also a mental illness because it is called ASPD. So they also would not be NT and they call non psychopaths NT so in that sense, we are all NT here.

My husband considers it a disability because it's a disorder and a illness. I would say the low functioning ones would be the one siting behind bars because they cannot function out in society and they had committed a crime because of their illness so they are where they need to be. Diane Downs in this definition would be a low functioning psychopath.

Jeffery Dalmer was a low functioning psychopath.

Not all disabilities and mental illnesses are roses.

And not everyone who displays psychopath traits is actually one. There is Conduct disorder and people with attachment issues can display psychopathy tenancies. I knew a little boy who also displayed it and he would abuse his mother to get his way and bragged to me about how he would harm disabled kids at his school. Plus he was also a pathlogical liar. He also threw an ax at my brothers and their friends nearly hitting them and chopped up my parents hammock and that got him hospitalized when my parents told his parents. He was diagnosed with ODD and he was also manipulative. I read that ODD can lead to conduct disorder if not outgrown so he might have had that and I remember reading in the criteria for Conduct disorder that they showed signs of it by age 10.

Don't forget the story of Beth Thomas who had RAD and she was cruel to animals, manipulative and would sexually abuse her brother and this girl was only six. Her psychopathy behavior was caused by trauma but she recovered from RAD thanks to the help she was able to get and started to feel remorse and have a conscious. She was considered to the worst case of child abuse. They did a video about her that aired in 1990 on HBO called Child of Rage and two years later a film based on her was released with the same name. But in her case, she was only hurting people around her because she was hurting inside from the abuse she suffered as a toddler so she expressed it through by being cruel to others. I read if left untreated, kids with RAD end up in prison as adults. I also read that the majority of prison inmates were abused when they were kids. It's not surprising that many inmates have psychopathy behavior or have narcissism or some sort of other trauma or have brain damage and poor impulse control or personality disorders like NPD or ASPD.


I am not saying that everyone with trauma turns into psychopaths. Everyone is different, I think it's just unfortunate that some do turn into one because of trauma. Some medical professionals even believe that personality disorders are caused by trauma and that no one is born that way. I see RAD as a trauma condition. Some people are just really unlucky.

It's also interesting that Diane Downs also had trauma because she was sexually abused by her father as a child but so were her siblings too and they didn't turn out like her so that shows that not everyone becomes a psychopath from abuse. Not everyone grows up to shoot their kids because they were abused. That is why that excuse was thrown out in court because her siblings didn't turn into her also so she was convicted and given a life sentence.

psychopathy can be on a spectrum so I suppose once you are diagnosed with a personality disorder then you join the club

Not based on "Evolutionary Psychology Theory".



Psychopathy could simply be see as an evolutionary quirk, rather than a dysfunction.

It would be fair to say the "illumanti" are fairly high on psychopathy and fairly low on empathy

Power corrupts, yes.
But we are concerned with psychopathy, not anti-social NT behaviour.
I imagine "The Illuminati", or similar organisations, would be comprised of predominantly NTs.

Which brings me to the question:
Assuming a psychopath has a physical brain differentiation from an NT,
How close can an NT mimic a psychopath?