Why don't people adopt vs having kids.

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02 Nov 2010, 11:05 pm

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Well, that would explain how screwed up our system is :cry: :cry: :cry:


As someone who presently cant afford/doesn't want kids.....I would never adopt if I went that route.


Our system is pretty screwed up, but believe it or not, it is improving. Slowly. Adoptive parents are being told more about their children, so they aren't being blind-sided as much as they used to be. Insurance companies are starting to be required to cover more mental health issues.

You're young yet - you could change your mind about kids!


Well, my first objective is to obtain a better job in the medical field........like respiratory therapist.........x-ray tech. We will see what happens from there. However, I have always wanted a professional job with responsibilities...and to be a really jacked guy...

I'm about halfway to becoming a really big dude....im in decent shape now.





To all the male aspies here: The better the job/more muscles you have....the better society treats you....or is at least forced to treat you.


I noticed that when I started at 130 pounds and went to 170...people treated me better. It's just how it is.



If you don't want to be bullied.....obtain what the bullies have to protect yourself. Bullies prey on the weak....not the strong :roll:


...I'm a woman, and I want exactly that.

A good job and an extra 20kg or so of muscle mass.




Why would a women want muscle mass? Would it be for sex appeal or to avoid being bullied by OTHER women? Do women even get physically bullied?


Why are men allowed to want muscle but not women?

And yeah. Women get physically bullied.

Since you asked: I like it for its own sake. I don't think a slim smooth body is that aesthetically pleasing.




Skinny body can be hot on a women. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:



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03 Nov 2010, 9:02 am

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Assuming you do adopt in the future, it will be hard, and important for you, as a parent, to recognize how difficult your child's life may have been, to feel the pain and heartache, and yet not be paralyzed or otherwise negatively impacted by it. It can be so painful to hear the child's pain, but the child has to be able to talk about it without worrying about taking care of the parents' feelings. The other thing that can be very difficult is walking the fine line between acknowledging the child's hurt and denigrating the child's biological family (assuming that the child's biological family caused some of the hurt). It is important, when adopting a child, never to say anything negative about the child's biological family. The child will interpret it as something negative about him/her.


Absolutely. I have no illusions that it will be easy, but I understand the necessity of putting the child's emotional needs first. This certainly includes respecting (or at least not disrespecting) the biological family and putting our parental emotional needs aside. It's not about us, it's about the child.

Our friend lived with a couple of his friends and went to community college after receiving his GED and financial aid. We lost touch with him after we moved out of the area so I don't know how things turned out for him. He was not without his own emotional disturbances and he did struggle a bit in school. I'm glad that the transitional process is slowly improving, although I wonder how our economy might affect this progress in the future.



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03 Nov 2010, 10:12 am

We looked into adoption before trying to concieve and were open to an older child, or a child with challenges (down syndorm? -no problem! Aspie - even better! FASD? trained to work with them in the schools and love em') - no we weren't looking for a baby and race doesn't matter to us . . . but yeah in Canada it costs $10 000 to adopt :(

Oh yeah, and race does matter to the agencies - they preffer to place children within their own culture so even if you would consider a child who doesn't look like you you may not get that option.

If anyone can put me in touch with an agency here that can do it for less I am interested! . . . but would they consider a stay at home aspie mom with a seizure disorder and hard working fiance who didn't finish high school? No we aren't perfect but we have roof over our heads, food on the table and alot of love to give. Good eneugh for most kids born into their natural families - but not good eneugh for the social workers.

Pregnancy is very difficult for me - I almost died over the weekend after doctors failed to recognise a life threatening complication in pregnancy if I could I would consider adoption a preffered avenue to parenting - it's not important that it be "mine" and franky I am just as intimidated about the challenges of raising a baby as any new mom to be, but we love eachother and would do anything to have a family (even if it almost killed me 8O ). Perhaps being willing to "do anything to be able to have a family" is exactly why we would be ideal adoptive parents - I'm sure those kids feel exactly the same way every day . . . too bad we aren't rich eneugh to adopt them and be that family they've been waiting for :cry:



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04 Nov 2010, 11:43 am

ApsieGuy wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
mechanicalgirl39 wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
jat wrote:
ApsieGuy wrote:
Well, that would explain how screwed up our system is :cry: :cry: :cry:


As someone who presently cant afford/doesn't want kids.....I would never adopt if I went that route.


Our system is pretty screwed up, but believe it or not, it is improving. Slowly. Adoptive parents are being told more about their children, so they aren't being blind-sided as much as they used to be. Insurance companies are starting to be required to cover more mental health issues.

You're young yet - you could change your mind about kids!


Well, my first objective is to obtain a better job in the medical field........like respiratory therapist.........x-ray tech. We will see what happens from there. However, I have always wanted a professional job with responsibilities...and to be a really jacked guy...

I'm about halfway to becoming a really big dude....im in decent shape now.





To all the male aspies here: The better the job/more muscles you have....the better society treats you....or is at least forced to treat you.


I noticed that when I started at 130 pounds and went to 170...people treated me better. It's just how it is.



If you don't want to be bullied.....obtain what the bullies have to protect yourself. Bullies prey on the weak....not the strong :roll:


...I'm a woman, and I want exactly that.

A good job and an extra 20kg or so of muscle mass.




Why would a women want muscle mass? Would it be for sex appeal or to avoid being bullied by OTHER women? Do women even get physically bullied?


Why are men allowed to want muscle but not women?

And yeah. Women get physically bullied.

Since you asked: I like it for its own sake. I don't think a slim smooth body is that aesthetically pleasing.




Skinny body can be hot on a women. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


I care more about MY ideals than I do about being hot for the guys.

My body is mine first, not theirs.


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04 Nov 2010, 2:15 pm

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Have you ever noticed that the people that are less prepared people or that should not be having babies in the first place are the most fertile and are prolific child bearers having 4-6 kids. :roll: The people that are resonable who would make good parents seem to only make 1-2 children or are infertile.


That's just because fertility goes down with age. In modern society, being prepared to raise a child well takes time. And the more time people spend doing that (maturing, getting established in their job), the less children they are able to have.



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04 Nov 2010, 2:20 pm

I despise the concept of adoption at birth. Most of these "nice couples" looking for children could be pedos, drug runners, psychopaths, or a combination of all three. Also, I'd hate myself if I was adopted. I'd feel like I was filling in someone else's shoes. A message to couples wanting kids: if your vadge is dried up early, why don't you suck it up and deal with it?!


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04 Nov 2010, 2:24 pm

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I despise the concept of adoption at birth. Most of these "nice couples" looking for children could be pedos, drug runners, psychopaths, or a combination of all three. Also, I'd hate myself if I was adopted. I'd feel like I was filling in someone else's shoes. A message to couples wanting kids: if your vadge is dried up early, why don't you suck it up and deal with it?!


Thank you for this helping of ignorance.

There are good sides to adoption from the 'wanted or not?' perspective. Adoption means it's a sure thing your adoptive parents WANTED you. They chose you, they actively went through screening procedures to get you. A biological child could have merely been an accident who the mother didn't like the idea of aborting.

Why don't you grow a brain?


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04 Nov 2010, 2:49 pm

Adoptive parents don't choose anyone, they're just stuck with whoever they can get.

Duh.



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04 Nov 2010, 3:22 pm

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I despise the concept of adoption at birth. Most of these "nice couples" looking for children could be pedos, drug runners, psychopaths, or a combination of all three. Also, I'd hate myself if I was adopted. I'd feel like I was filling in someone else's shoes. A message to couples wanting kids: if your vadge is dried up early, why don't you suck it up and deal with it?!


Thank you for this helping of ignorance.

There are good sides to adoption from the 'wanted or not?' perspective. Adoption means it's a sure thing your adoptive parents WANTED you. They chose you, they actively went through screening procedures to get you. A biological child could have merely been an accident who the mother didn't like the idea of aborting.

Why don't you grow a brain?

The amount of idiocy in your own post is off the charts. The word "want" implies a need for ownership, as in property. Your capitalization knocks it up to creepy levels, almost as if the couple in question had nothing better to do, like their entire reason for existence revolved around the adoptee's placement. Also, any clever creep can cheat psychological screenings. Look at the case of one Steven Lynn Mouton. He adopted a Chinese girl for the purpose of producing child porn.


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04 Nov 2010, 3:28 pm

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Adoptive parents don't choose anyone, they're just stuck with whoever they can get.

Duh.


As if I chose my mother on my way through the birth canal?



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04 Nov 2010, 4:19 pm

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I despise the concept of adoption at birth. Most of these "nice couples" looking for children could be pedos, drug runners, psychopaths, or a combination of all three. Also, I'd hate myself if I was adopted. I'd feel like I was filling in someone else's shoes. A message to couples wanting kids: if your vadge is dried up early, why don't you suck it up and deal with it?!


Thank you for this helping of ignorance.

There are good sides to adoption from the 'wanted or not?' perspective. Adoption means it's a sure thing your adoptive parents WANTED you. They chose you, they actively went through screening procedures to get you. A biological child could have merely been an accident who the mother didn't like the idea of aborting.

Why don't you grow a brain?

The amount of idiocy in your own post is off the charts. The word "want" implies a need for ownership, as in property. Your capitalization knocks it up to creepy levels, almost as if the couple in question had nothing better to do, like their entire reason for existence revolved around the adoptee's placement. Also, any clever creep can cheat psychological screenings. Look at the case of one Steven Lynn Mouton. He adopted a Chinese girl for the purpose of producing child porn.


Want does not mean ownership. That's your interpretation. Why shouldn't they feel strongly about wanting a kid? It's an instinct in many people.

Your point about abuse doesn't stand. Biological parents can abuse too.


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04 Nov 2010, 5:25 pm

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Have you ever noticed that the people that are less prepared people or that should not be having babies in the first place are the most fertile and are prolific child bearers having 4-6 kids. :roll: The people that are resonable who would make good parents seem to only make 1-2 children or are infertile.


That's just because fertility goes down with age. In modern society, being prepared to raise a child well takes time. And the more time people spend doing that (maturing, getting established in their job), the less children they are able to have.



Is that why teens get pregnant so quick? :wink:



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04 Nov 2010, 6:07 pm

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Janissy wrote:
Todesking wrote:
Have you ever noticed that the people that are less prepared people or that should not be having babies in the first place are the most fertile and are prolific child bearers having 4-6 kids. :roll: The people that are resonable who would make good parents seem to only make 1-2 children or are infertile.


That's just because fertility goes down with age. In modern society, being prepared to raise a child well takes time. And the more time people spend doing that (maturing, getting established in their job), the less children they are able to have.



Is that why teens get pregnant so quick? :wink:


I know you're winking but...yes it is why. It is a miracle of birth control that every act of teen sex doesn't lead to pregnancy, since biology has almost guarenteed that it will.



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04 Nov 2010, 9:39 pm

No, the obvious answer is I don't like condoms and we were told by "doctors" that my wife could not get pregnant. Probably shouldn't have took her to the clinic in Tijuana! Now I have a six year old son who is NT.


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04 Nov 2010, 11:46 pm

Because people are selfish and would rather spawn their own DNA than care for an existing child in need - much less a child of a non-white colour, and/or a disability.