Does anyone else feel like they don't relate to most Aspies?
I'll admit that even here on WP among other people in the spectrum I feel like an outsider.Why you ask? Well, for the most part I'm not that great when it comes to usage or word or grammar decipherability.Often most peple probably see me as some teenager or something based on my wording and all yet, this is not the case..2nd, There are many things I'm not keen upon in terms of social scenarios therefore, I feel empty with such things yet, I'm not envious just trying to figure out where I went wrong that's all..
3rd, my interests & hobbies don't tend to sit well with some people therefore, always I am doing my best to not get on anyone's nerves but, there are a handful of people whom I've already noticed being as hypocrtical and AS elitist if such exists..
This does it for me at the moment for, I'd wish to remain diplomatic...
I tried to convince myself, "Aha, finally here's a place where you'll find people like you!" and soon realized people here weren't like me. I don't have all of the Asperger's traits, and the comorbidities: Depression, Social Anxiety, and ADHD; and my personality MBTI type being INFP, I once considered that I was a transgender and once considered I was an otherkin; I actually don't fit in here so well after all. I'm possibly "too weird".
Not like I still believe I can relate to most Neurotypicals, either.
So I'm trying to convince myself that there's no one else like me I'll be able to relate to, without making me feel alienated. Challenging.
I've been thinking about starting a thread like this for a while. Because most everyone in here writes like they've been through many years of college. Even now I'm struggling to come up with the right words and to not write the same ones repeatedly.
When I compare my posts to a lot of others on this board I start to feel like an elementry grade level child. It's like, I've finally found the disorder that I have and that have been searching for years to find but then seeing how alot of people on this BB have a place of their own to live, has the ability to drive a car, keep a steady job, and some can even raise a family while I struggle just to take care of myself makes me come to a few possible conclusions.
Asperger's has a pathetically wide spectrum and I'm on on the very worst edge of it.
Perhaps a good number of you have been miss diagnosed.
Everyone is using a thesaurus when they're posting.
Some, none, or all of the above.
I don't mean to sound angry or anything it just gets to me sometimes. But I alwalys try to keep an open mind about everything so if anyone would like to tell me why they can communicate exceptionally well online I'm all ears. I have heard it makes life easier if your diagnosed early and you go through certain therapy, but can it really be that helpful? I've seen some posts read better then most NT's. And not just the type of or complexity of words used but how they are strung together.
Anyways, if you had any problems reading this post or understanding what I'm trying to say, or the sentences and words seem to run together in some areas, are in the wrong places in others, then I must apologize, but I think I have AS.
Yes, I do feel like I can't relate to some Aspies sometimes, especially ones who've found marketable jobs/careers based on their "special interest". I feel like I don't really have a particularly marketable skill or interest, so that's why I often feel like I don't relate well to a lot of Aspies.
For me it's not necessarily about not being able to relate--because I'm sure I would be able to relate to them if I knew what they were going through. But I feel like I don't fit in with most Aspies, especially ones my age. Many of them have special interests, like for example Pokemon or anime, that I don't know a lot about and am not all that interested in. My interests are hard to describe to people. Also, many of them seem to be good at being funny and random and talkative, and I am not very good at that. So I don't feel I fit in anywhere.
I relate strongly with with some aspies, and not very much at all with others.
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The more I have my symptoms under control, the less I relate to most Aspies. The only one I know I'll always relate to is a good friend of mine, but he's a rare & different kind of Aspie. I guess I'll also always have a high tolerance for my family members' traits.
Others with strong traits I don't really relate to at all anymore, especially in person. I find myself observing their traits as well as being annoyed/frustrated by them at times - even though I know they're AS traits.. they can just be kinda irritating. The more I experience this every now and then when I'm around a frustrating/difficult Aspie, the more I realize just how annoying I can be to NT's sometimes - especially back when my symptoms were strong.
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I've never felt like I relate to any group of humans in a real strong way
sure I find similarities but I'm never "one of them"
I don't think anyone should feel so related and connected to others, I think feeling this way means that they lost their own identity and every small detail they lived through and learnt in their own way.
so, I can relate a little to every group that humankind had made, and I can't "really" relate to anything.
I don't relate to any culture that fosters an 'us and them' mindset. This was not so in my suffering past, for then such a boundary offered protection. However limiting that identification was it was helpful for a time.
My experience of autism groups is that this mindset is quite ingrained by most members. (NT bashing etc)
I used to think it was because that I was 'higher functioning' and thus more mature and integrated in the world and as a result felt aversion to joining aspie groups whose members held such a limiting outlook.
However, I have come critique this idea that I am more 'high functioning' from the average aspie and have come to the conclusion that after many years of working on myself and finding peace in my heart, I see everyone as my brother and sister.
I have met very few people with autism who have such an integrated and inclusive way of relating to the world as myself. When I do meet such a person with autism I feel a deep connection that words cannot convey.
I feel I think more NT-like compared to a lot of Aspies here. I understand why some people lie about certain things, and that it doesn't always do to be blunt. I hate people being blunt to me, unless it's really, really necessary. I tend to look at the emotional and irrational side of things, rather than the logical side. I know the meanings behind most social cues and why we humans do it. It seems a lot of Aspies here don't see human relationships the same way as I do. Also there are a lot of black and white thinkers too, like if someone thinks of an ASD symptom, they think that NTs have the complete polar opposite to that symptom. Like special interests. Some Aspies believe ''ASD people have special interests, so that obviously means that NTs have no interests at all''. It doesn't actually work like that. NTs have interests too, and it's not always linked to what their peers are interested in either. My boyfriend is NT and he likes historical things, and he has an expensive collection of special things from hundreds of years ago, and he wants to put them on a shelf exclusively to everything else, just so it can be like a display thing in his home. I asked if any of his friends was into that stuff but he said no, it's just something he's been doing for years. He loves all that stuff. Not saying it's a special interest, but it's still an interest of his.
But I suppose there are some Aspies out there who may have never had much of a connection with an NT at all, maybe they were brought up by Aspie parents, or are quite low-functioning so have never mixed with NTs really. So understandably they would think that all NTs are these social monsters that are only interested in gossiping all day for their whole lives. But I know that is not just what NTs do. It's not just what NTs think about. I suppose I know more about how the average NT mind works because I was brought up in an NT family, and went to mainstream school and mixed with NT children, and now I work with NTs and my partner and all his family are NTs, so I do know a thing or two about them. And I find NTs very interesting people. Every time I've had an obsession, it's always been about an NT person.
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My experience of autism groups is that this mindset is quite ingrained by most members. (NT bashing etc)
I used to think it was because that I was 'higher functioning' and thus more mature and integrated in the world and as a result felt aversion to joining aspie groups whose members held such a limiting outlook.
However, I have come critique this idea that I am more 'high functioning' from the average aspie and have come to the conclusion that after many years of working on myself and finding peace in my heart, I see everyone as my brother and sister.
I have met very few people with autism who have such an integrated and inclusive way of relating to the world as myself. When I do meet such a person with autism I feel a deep connection that words cannot convey.
I also don't relate to autistic people who have us vs them mentality, bash NTs, or claim autistic superiority.
I don't understand the mentalities of most autism advocates either, which is why I would say that they don't speak for me.
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Oftentimes, yeah. I actually do like people and don't want to be alone all the time or alone except for a significant other, and I don't see myself as being easily irritated by "NT traits". I just plain don't like sectioning myself off into a group and fighting against other groups.
I also don't have a marketable special interest, and I tend to struggle to stay focused on what I do like because I haven't been feeling well for some time.
I almost consider myself in a class of my own. I tend to have "Aspie superiority" and get annoyed when other Aspies, "nerds" or others in my groups of interest behave like NTs (ie. drinking, dating, partying, etc). It boggles me that people I think will never behave like that wind up doing it. I have theories that even other Aspies don't seem to want to accept. I'm sorry but I honestly believe that most of society is brainwashed by things like media, government, religion and even DNA itself. I just think that people like me know things others don't but are so hopelessly outnumbered by the "hive mind" that there's nothing to be done about it.
I relate to people here in the sense that I have a lot of things in common with people...common traits and symptoms, similar experiences and difficulties in life.
What I don't relate to is that people here can have dramatically different perspectives on life than my own, particularly those who are very scientific minded and dismissive of spiritual or metaphysical beliefs.
(>4-year-old thread)
I don't know any diagnosed autistic person IRL. I can only talk about people on WP. I can relate to many of the experiences of other posters here and in that sense I surely feel I belong here whereas IRL I'm totally alone.
However, by now it's clear that I can't make any personal connections even with people on WP. I can see some members are constantly responding to each other's posts, exchanging PM's, even exchanging banter etc. I've been here for almost 2 1/2 years and have been posting regularly but I'm still an invisible stranger to most people.
I'm hoping to meet autistic people IRL although I have a feeling that they probably won't be much different from non-autistic people and I'll probably be disappointed. I could at least try.
most people i meet in person who have aspergers are either very similar too me or exactly like me, which is nice because i've felt like an outsider my entire life and now i can finally fit in.
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