weird stereotypes of aspies by other aspies

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11 Jan 2011, 9:35 am

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Eh. Some people with AS/autism have similar features and may have a few traits in common. It doesn't mean everyone is like that.

For the record I am:

Short.
Look younger than I actually am.
Have an odd shaped cranium.
Have odd posture.
Can go for days without washing.
I don't wear makeup or spend much time making myself look presentable.
Physically you can tell I'm autistic by my actions and blank eyed stare.

I regard myself as THE atypical AS case when it comes to these things. I'm probably as un-geeky in appearance as they come.
To compare...
- I am tall, and weigh over 100kg (200+ pounds) without being fat.
- I shave my head, as I am severely balding and hav since early 20-ish.
- I have a distinct "bouncer-look".
- My walk and posture is normal for my size.
- I don't know if I look younger. I suck at telling age.
- I am considered good looking, and have had my share of women before I got married.
- I smoke.
- I drink.
- I do not do drugs.
- I am never sick.
- I am not clumsy at all. On the contrary, I have been tested to have a very good balance.
If there is to be anything "typical" to point me out with, it would have to be a fairly monotenous voice, problems placing my hands anywhere, and I just can not seem to get the eye-contact-thing going in a non-weird way.


I'm a lot like that, save the fact that I don't smoke, I rarely drink, I have a 1930's 'mattnie idol look' (I'm a cross beween Buster Crabbie and Jonny Wismuller) rather than a bouncer look, have a full head of hair (I'm rather prowd of the way it is you see as I rather like 'Flash Gordon' and 'Tarzan' and my GF thinks it makes me look 'cute') and I'm yet to marry my GF (would like to someday though...)

Other than that I'm more or less like yourself, were we seprated at birth by any chance!?!

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11 Jan 2011, 9:38 am

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- I am not clumsy at all. On the contrary, I have been tested to have a very good balance.


What if you have good balance and are yet somehow still clumsy? I never trip and fall (maybe once in my entire adult life, and a cat was involved), and yet I do trip, walk into things, drop things, knock things over, etc. I think I've pulled so many muscles tripping and recovering it's not funny, and is way too painful at times.

I picked that out of the list and a bit out of context because it's been on my mind. My sense of balance has been one reason I didn't really consider myself to be clumsy, but in thinking about it, I really am.



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11 Jan 2011, 9:49 am

Verdandi wrote:
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- I am not clumsy at all. On the contrary, I have been tested to have a very good balance.


What if you have good balance and are yet somehow still clumsy? I never trip and fall (maybe once in my entire adult life, and a cat was involved), and yet I do trip, walk into things, drop things, knock things over, etc. I think I've pulled so many muscles tripping and recovering it's not funny, and is way too painful at times.

I picked that out of the list and a bit out of context because it's been on my mind. My sense of balance has been one reason I didn't really consider myself to be clumsy, but in thinking about it, I really am.

That one was a bit quickly written by myself, as clumsyness does not have to have anything to do with balance. Clumsyness will very very often be a hand-eye coordination issue. Maybe even worse if combined with limited ability to percieve depth of view.
These things will make you stub your toes and knock coffee-cups off the table by accident.
That could account for the fact that you never ever trip, as your balance is good, but you still knock stuff over.



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11 Jan 2011, 10:02 am

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That one was a bit quickly written by myself, as clumsyness does not have to have anything to do with balance. Clumsyness will very very often be a hand-eye coordination issue. Maybe even worse if combined with limited ability to percieve depth of view.
These things will make you stub your toes and knock coffee-cups off the table by accident.
That could account for the fact that you never ever trip, as your balance is good, but you still knock stuff over.


Okay, thanks. I hadn't really read much about it, I just sort of assumed one thing before thinking much about the other.



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11 Jan 2011, 4:26 pm

evilduck wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
evilduck wrote:
- I am not clumsy at all. On the contrary, I have been tested to have a very good balance.


What if you have good balance and are yet somehow still clumsy? I never trip and fall (maybe once in my entire adult life, and a cat was involved), and yet I do trip, walk into things, drop things, knock things over, etc. I think I've pulled so many muscles tripping and recovering it's not funny, and is way too painful at times.

I picked that out of the list and a bit out of context because it's been on my mind. My sense of balance has been one reason I didn't really consider myself to be clumsy, but in thinking about it, I really am.

That one was a bit quickly written by myself, as clumsyness does not have to have anything to do with balance. Clumsyness will very very often be a hand-eye coordination issue. Maybe even worse if combined with limited ability to percieve depth of view.
These things will make you stub your toes and knock coffee-cups off the table by accident.
That could account for the fact that you never ever trip, as your balance is good, but you still knock stuff over.


I also have excellent balance, due to the fact that I was a professional ballet dancer for many years! So I don´t come across as "clumsy" at all. What´s funny, though, is that when I was a child, I did have coordination problems; I had a very hard time learning to dress myself, learning to ride a bike, catching a ball, etc. My parents actually put me in ballet, partly to help me with coordination (among other things). Little did they know that that would become my special interest!

So now, even though I started off with more physical problems than the other children, as an adult I have better than average coordination because I´ve trained it. Although, I seem to be worse than average with small muscle coordination: for instance, sewing the ribbons on my pointe shoes was utter hell! And nowadays, when food shopping, it takes me ages to open these little plastic bags they use in Germany. Usually, someone at the check out counter ends up reaching over and helping me....I think they feel sorry for me, because they see me struggle with it for so long..... :oops:


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11 Jan 2011, 11:04 pm

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Well, scientific proof isn't absolute proof. You can always tell who the scientists aren't by quotes like that. "Studies show that..." "There is scientific proof that..." Science has theories, not facts. There are no scientific facts, although some things are universally regarded as true, and if they weren't, then among other things, this board wouldn't even exist.

I thought scientific theories explained scientific facts. E.g. The theory of evolution explains how organisms change over time. The theory of gravity explains how objects with mass are attracted one another. Perhaps I am wrong?

Also, I'm not entirely sure what's wrong with the phrase "evidence suggests"?



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12 Jan 2011, 9:08 am

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I thought scientific theories explained scientific facts.

From a dictionary I had handy:
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1. a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"
2. a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"


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28 Feb 2011, 6:37 pm

Well, I've never had an attraction to alcohol and smoking... I also knew I looked different from the other kids... I still look different. I actually really hate that.



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14 Apr 2011, 4:48 am

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ive seen on this board people suggesting the weirdest things about aspergers.... one poster said there was scientific proof that aspies don't drink or smoke. and some have even suggested that there is a physical way to detect autism like facial features or something... some have even suggested that aspies are less attractive and clean. where is this stuff coming from!? as far as i know none of any of this is a fact by any means but why do some of us assume that all aspies are like themselves?


I agree. On some of these threads I've read things what have really frightened the s**t out of me, like ''Aspies are more likely to get cancer'', and ''Aspies are more prone to taking drugs'', and ''Aspies are more likely to get murdered,'' and more crap what I just can't be doing with. It gets silly. I don't know where people have heard all this from. If any of this was true, wouldn't Autism be a very, very serious thing? It seems like people are trying to make more out of Autism than what it originally is. I'm not sure if some people with it love being unique and so have black and white thinking which convinces themselves into thinking that ''Autistic people are more likely to get this than NT people''.
I've always been told that Autistic people and NT people have equally the same amount of chances of getting these illnesses. I've got just as much chance of getting cancer as the person next door to me. I've known a lot of people in my life who have had cancer, and they were/are all NTs. I heard of a lot of people who are on drugs, and they are all NTs (as far as I know). So there.


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14 Apr 2011, 4:51 am

I have a weird way of thinking about other aspies.

Normally looking at pictures and thinking Aspies kind of smile or position themselves awkwardly (myself included), but that's what I merely think...I don't really mean it. They say some are photogenic (I've been called that too).

Are Aspies photogenic? I have no clue.



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14 Apr 2011, 6:26 am

With the ''Aspies look younger than they are'' thing - I've learnt that most people look younger than they are. It is rare to meet someone who is 44 and looks exactly 44. I have an Autistic friend, who is 22, and he looks way older than he is - he looks about 32. And my other friend, who is NT, wears no make-up or has any fancy hairstyles, and she looks younger than her age. So there is no telling. In some people's eyes I look older, and in other people's eyes I look younger. Maybe I might look younger because I don't make an effort with myself (eg I don't wear make-up or have a fancy hairstyle. I only have a standard hairstyle). The majority of girls usually start caring about their hair and putting make-up on when they reach their early teens, but before then they usually just go about looking like me - with no make-up and just having a standard hairstyle.

I look older when I wear sunglasses. I look older when I do put make-up on. It sometimes depends on what facial expressions you have - it's not always your physical look.


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14 Apr 2011, 6:33 am

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With the ''Aspies look younger than they are'' thing - I've learnt that most people look younger than they are. It is rare to meet someone who is 44 and looks exactly 44. I have an Autistic friend, who is 22, and he looks way older than he is - he looks about 32. And my other friend, who is NT, wears no make-up or has any fancy hairstyles, and she looks younger than her age. So there is no telling. In some people's eyes I look older, and in other people's eyes I look younger. Maybe I might look younger because I don't make an effort with myself (eg I don't wear make-up or have a fancy hairstyle. I only have a standard hairstyle). The majority of girls usually start caring about their hair and putting make-up on when they reach their early teens, but before then they usually just go about looking like me - with no make-up and just having a standard hairstyle.

I look older when I wear sunglasses. I look older when I do put make-up on. It sometimes depends on what facial expressions you have - it's not always your physical look.

I'm 25 and I look like I'm 12.
Craig Nicholls is 32 or 33 and looks like he is 17. He is the singer from the Vines with AS.

While not everyone with an ASD looks way younger than they actually are it is pretty common.


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14 Apr 2011, 7:01 am

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I thought scientific theories explained scientific facts. E.g. The theory of evolution explains how organisms change over time. The theory of gravity explains how objects with mass are attracted one another. Perhaps I am wrong?

Well, it's just a theory, right? Which is the same as an opinion, which is the same as anything you think is right. That's why I believe that objects actually fall to the ground because they love mother earth so much they want to get back to it and what really pulls you to the ground is love. That's why we shouldn't explore space, because there's no love in space. After all, my theory is also a theory, so it's equally right.

No, I'm not actually serious about that :wink: - I was raised by two scientists, I know the difference between scientific theory and an opinion. But I do like to pull that out on people who use similar logic on... other things.

As to the original topic. Eh, people always find ways to try to draw their sub-group in closer, "we've all got this, thus we must all also not smoke because I don't smoke". I don't really care, to be honest I expect most of you to be more dissimilar than similar to me, same as NTs. I think most people have more differences than they have similarities, which is why they focus so much on anything that could be the same - to try to get a greater sense of closeness and unity from those aspects.



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14 Apr 2011, 7:28 am

The forums are full of 'are you like this too?'

We are naval gazers :oops:



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14 Apr 2011, 7:42 am

Joe90 wrote:
With the ''Aspies look younger than they are'' thing - I've learnt that most people look younger than they are. It is rare to meet someone who is 44 and looks exactly 44. I have an Autistic friend, who is 22, and he looks way older than he is - he looks about 32. And my other friend, who is NT, wears no make-up or has any fancy hairstyles, and she looks younger than her age. So there is no telling. In some people's eyes I look older, and in other people's eyes I look younger. Maybe I might look younger because I don't make an effort with myself (eg I don't wear make-up or have a fancy hairstyle. I only have a standard hairstyle). The majority of girls usually start caring about their hair and putting make-up on when they reach their early teens, but before then they usually just go about looking like me - with no make-up and just having a standard hairstyle.

I look older when I wear sunglasses. I look older when I do put make-up on. It sometimes depends on what facial expressions you have - it's not always your physical look.


I look about 17 but if I grow a beard I look about 30 odd....it's weird...

I still suffer from bad skin though even though I no longer have acne.



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14 Apr 2011, 10:48 am

I know quite a lot of NTs who look younger than their age. The manager at my work is 31, but she literally looks about 16, and she don't wear no make-up or anything like that.


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