I dedicate this POEM to Emoal6

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I've always wondered if hale_bopp and emp are the same person, because their posts and the writing style within is quite similar. Maybe emoal6 can be added to that list. Who knows, though?

One thing that I did notice is that if you check the profile for emoal6, it says that he doesn't know whether or not he has aspergers. Well, a lot of us might be wondering that ourselves, with some of us still wondering after being diagnosed. With emoal6, however, he seems more narcissistic than anything. Jealousy? I doubt that's an aspie trait. We can be very headstrong, and some of us may have trouble losing at times, but I have not seen many AS people become pathologically jealous of others. I think that takes a far more advanced social skill set, something that most of us do not have.

- Ray M -

Emoal6 obsession is poems and writing. I feel he is powerless to control
his critical comments on the subject of poems. Instead of attacking him I feel
we should try to understand him. I think hyper_alien has shown she is strong
and can take Emoal6 comments. If you write a poem Emoal6 is going to comment
on it. I want Emoal6 and hyper_alien to both feel welcome here.

I no longer feel welcome anywhere.

But thanks anyway....

Well I think its a common problem here. I think most users of this site do not
feel welcome here. I can tell you Emoal6 ,me ,you all feel we are not welcome
here.

narcissism has to do with being highly fond of oneself. If you knew anything about me, you'd know I hate most things about me, except for my love for writing in general. I dont even see myself as a great writer or I would have already turned in one of my 600 different poems/raps/flows(whatever you want to call them). I have been told by a lot of people, mostly NT's that my writing is very fluid and intriguing, a sincere introspective look at myself.(I dont follow the rules of meter and such, but rather more of a rule of water). I dont like being the bad guy, the villian, the outcast, the loner. It's just who I have become in my 21 years of existence. I was surrounded by NT's, hung out with my brother's friends.(he's NT) I gained a persona of just not caring. I learned that if all you had in this world was yourself in the long run, who cares? I try to be as good a person I can, but just like everyone else here and in the world, I have my limitations and things that set me off. Your's might be someone picking on you every day of your life, or people making obnoxious noises, or whatever the case may be. Mine is when it seems obvious to ME that someone is disrespecting something I love. I may not have all the confidence in my writing that I could, but I still write with as much intensity and depth as I ever have and ever will. When I read something that doesn't seem like someone put in enough effort towards a finished product, it pisses me off. Hell, i get pissed off when people dont look over what they're posting and just make themselves look like idiots. It takes a minute of your time to read over what you put in the box slowly and carefully to make sure you're wrote it the way you thought it. Check your spelling, make sure you didnt forget words or use the wrong word. I had a teacher who was a nazi for grammer and rhetoric. We did a paper every week using different tools of rhetoric(antithesis, chiasmus) and had to have vocab words from each week in it as well. It's just part of me now. I understand why he put so much emphasis on it now. The way you write shows off your ability to use the language to express your feelings and opinions in an intellectual fashion. By not using the words dude, um, like, basically, and many other "simple" words, you allow others to see how much you believe in yourself. I understand that a lot of you took her poem to heart, because you understood her point of view. Don't mistake me as someone who didn't. I definitly understand, the points I kept making where that there was no effort to use any type of depth or word selection. It was as if a 10 year old wrote it. She's not 10. I too feel like I am still only 12-14, but I also have other reasons for that.(I suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder(diagnosed)) I too lived a life of torture and pain. That doesn't stop me from doing the best I can at everything I put my mind to. It shouldn't stop any of you either.

A few things..

Oh ye, Emoal6, master of the written and spoken language, please use the Enter key once in a while. It makes your post much more readable by the reader.

While I feel you may have a valid point that this is not "technically" a poem in the strictest sense, you certainly could have gone about expressing that in a different way.

Perhaps you are having a bad day and if that is the case, then I am sorry. I hope it gets better.

I have been known to write what I would call a poem or two. Maybe you wouldn't call it that, but that is what I choose to call it and just because it doesn't fit your definition, it doesn't mean that it isn't. It is what I feel it is and it is a valid expression, whether I use correct punctuation or not.

If poetry and writing is what you know, then post on a poetry or writing forum where you are free to criticize to your hearts content. I thought this forum was about people with AS and Autism connecting and embracing one another and to share experiences. Perhaps I was wrong.

One of my weaknesses is that I have a somewhat small vocabulary and have trouble verbally expressing things in the way that I want to. Sorry, I hated English. However, I would expect others here to accept me for who and what I am, weaknesses included. If I was to be personally attacked in the way that you attacked hyper_alien, I would probably want to leave and never return as well.

Personally, I liked what hyper_alien wrote. That is all.

I'm guessing the fact the IP addresses point to different countries is a sharp giveaway.

Aliens you are welcome here. Don't worry.

Emoal6 did not say or indicate that hyper_alien is unwelcome at WrongPlanet. Emoal6 only raised an issue regarding poetry. Just because someone dislikes your poetry, it does not mean you are unwelcome on the whole forum, sheesh.

Its one thing to make people feel unwelcome. Its another thing when people
do not welcome you. My guess is hyper_alien feeling unwelcome has little to
do with Emoal6 comments. Day one I knew (and they and most know) that
the odds of being liked or making friends here is low. The theory that a forum
for mostly aspies can be usefull to us is just a theory. The science may prove
we do better with aspie on NT relationships. Evolution makes less than 1%
of us aspies. I'm guessing in a class of 500 maybe one other kid was an aspie
at my school. While I did like that other aspie we were in no way friends.
Another thing I've noted is WP has 5348 memebers. That means we are
all 1 in a million here. The odds of any of us getting along is low. A few people
in patches here may feel they are friends and welcome each other. But I have
a feeling most people here feel more like me,Emoal6,hyper_alien,etc.

That is probably true, but there was an implied suggestion that it was related to Emoal6.

HyperAlien, I liked what you wrote. I don't know a thing about the rules of poetry, but I liked the ideas you put into it. I think you did a good job of describing a peaceful serene place where someone can feel safe. That spoke to me. I hope you'll keep writing.

I agree completely.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It just so happens that everyone I've shown the "cardboard box poem" in REAL LIFE, has busted out laughing. Going to the length of asking "how in the hell did you write something so horrible?" I guess most of you relate more to a simple poem that has no depth or personality. Good for you, I'll stick with my other style.

As for hyper alien feeling welcome or not, that has as much to do with her own life and problems, as to do with my comments. I was sincere in my criticism until attacked, then I went to what I know. Love me or hate me, but you'll never break me. Learn to live by that and you'll make it through anything.

I wouldn't get offended if someone doesn't like your poems. I personlly hold my tongue when someone posts a poem I don't like, but a lot of the ones posted here have been terrible, in my opinion, but I don't hold it against the member.

Emoal6, you say it is not poetry.
A crappy poem, by Barracuda:
Emoalsix,
you forget this:
If it ain't prose,
It's poetry.
And in poetry, anything,
and I mean anything
goes.

Argueing that something isn't poetry isn't smart. You may not like it, but it's still poetry. Congratulations, ace. You just made half the site hate you.

hyper_alien, my only problem with it is the grammar. No grammar makes it very hard to read.