Why is Autism Important to You?

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21 Jan 2011, 6:24 am

You implied the world somehow would no longer have people with us unlike now. What else could you have meant? That somehow we would vanish? Also people without autism are just as interesting. Also the second half was having to do with common opinions and not your explicit statements. It was a good remark considering common beliefs that you didn't explicitly say.

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21 Jan 2011, 7:02 am

ci wrote:

I didn't imply anything, i ment exactly what i wrote. I believe the world would be boring without autism just like i believe it would be boring without music. It doesn't mean i think either autism or music is going to disapear somehow.

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21 Jan 2011, 7:37 am

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Autism simply cannot be a person it's a label that someone applied to you, me and others. The abstract of Zen-ology might be concerned.

If you drop a rock into a pond is the pond defined by the movements as a whole or is the pond as a whole simply a pond despite the rock? Now the rock never thought a thing and is not a negative or positive judgement. The label is however to the mind a negative applied to self. Therefore are parts of self defined negative or is even the ears, eyes , feet and all else also this label? - Zen Master Foofie

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my mind and my body are two different entities to me. I am my mind, and i am contained in my body. Autism is the shape of my mind, the shape of Me. I don't see it as negative or positive, but i am indubitably defined by it, but my feet are not

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21 Jan 2011, 12:01 pm

autism is important to me, and i think about it every day, because i live with it every day. yesterday it made me cry. this morning it made me laugh. it went to bed with me last night and i woke up with it this morning.

and im not even autistic. autism is important to me because it makes those i love the wonderful people they are. its a huge part of my life.

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21 Jan 2011, 4:55 pm

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It's the reason why everyone is always upset with me no matter what I do.

Give me an example but as it is you started this conversation with calling those who raised you stupid and dumb.

What the hell are you talking about? The quote above was my first post in this thread. And what does that have anything to do with what we're talking about here?

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21 Jan 2011, 4:57 pm

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The negatives are the reason for the diagnoses and to receive help. It's not like being black, gay or religious. However because of the abortion issue and it's politics, the need to show disability is in need of accommodation and help and the true reality of autism the dignity argument is superseded. My original label is my name, Nathan Young and certainly not a pathological concept that become so political it's useless in exception for the subjective individual assessment in needs.

Of the thousands aware of my advocacy and hundreds I've interacted with who approached me about my autism advocacy that has nothing to do with negative or positives no one has ever treated me like they had to use a dung stick to keep me away. Quite the opposite I want to walk away and have my own space. People just don't hate you or me because of autism. I've even had a meet and greet announced for a month on 5 or so radio stations every hour or more in which 600 - 700 people came to my table with parent volunteers from a local non-profit parent autism group. It just is not that bad as you expect and others expect in the mainstream.

So what is wrong with the autism label? It's merely the negative labels people add on to the label that really shouldn't be there.

Heck, for some people, the label of black, or gay, or religious adds on negative labels, too. The problem is not the label itself, but the negative labels people put there just because of hearing the one.

It actually reminds me of a play. I have never watched or read it, but my sister did and she describe it to me: "The Importance of Being Ernest." A man goes to a party that he's not supposed to be at and falls madly in love with a woman there. And she tells him how important it is to her to marry a man named Ernest, the fake name he is using.

Being autistic has shaped every aspect of my character. Because of the way I look at the world, I interpret events in a different way. I have learned different things from these events than a neurotypical would. Autism IS who I am. No neurotypical could be close to who I am.

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21 Jan 2011, 5:08 pm

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Because it's part of who I am.

Ditto.

In part, it defines who I am, and why.

I would think this would be the reason for anyone, unless it's because it defines in whole or in part someone they know.

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21 Jan 2011, 6:52 pm

Because it's part of who I am, and through gaining a better understanding of it I will learn more about myself.
And also because it's just plain ol' interesting.

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22 Jan 2011, 7:41 am

I ask for my fellow members not to shoot me down. I'm going to fess up. I'm more likely to be in the same class as average and emotionally sensitive Mick Avory than I am to be in the same class as logical genus Albert Einstein, as far as my AS is concerned. I still wouldn't take the cure, even If I was payed 1 Million dollars to do so, and I would appreciate it if I don't get shot down for saying this, by anybody in this community, because I'm speaking from my heart. There are many types of Asperger's Syndrome. I'm a rebel who has a rock n roll identity and I'm able to live on my own. Is that so unusual for an aspie? AS affects each of us on WP differently. Thank you for letting me speak my mind without attacking me for doing so, or on the account of my special interest.

I'm saying this in peace and not in anger.

Thank you. :flower:

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22 Jan 2011, 10:09 am

The reason I joined WP is because of the attitude that you mentioned, CR. Not everyone here has it, but plenty do look at autism as something other than a disability.

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22 Jan 2011, 10:18 am

I honestly don't know...

When I first found out about it, I became very intrigued and had to read everything about it. If I have AS, then it would be called a special interest. If it turns out I don't have AS, then I'm a creep and that's how I feel (I'm not saying that NTs that care about autism are creeps, it's just how I feel).

I have other labels, but I don't care as much about them as AS... it's like what I'm focused on.

I've had people claim they picked it out as soon as they met me, and other people familiar with AS say that I don't seem to have it at all.... that's what confuses me.

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22 Jan 2011, 11:02 am

1. My son has autism.
2. I have students who are autistic.
3. I once complained to a friend, "Why don't I know more normal people?" She stated, "Nobody is normal. Are you normal? Am I normal? We all have our problems. We all have our inadequacies. We all have our special abilities."

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22 Jan 2011, 11:47 am

Why is autism important to me?

For the same reason a diagnosis of diabetes is important to a person with diabetes.

It allows me to put my problems into perspective and gives me a roadmap on how to deal with them effectively. And I don't have to be embarrassed about stimming any more.

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22 Jan 2011, 2:07 pm

It really isnt. sorry i wish i could be more exited about autism but i'm not

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22 Jan 2011, 5:14 pm

It means I never have to study for tests and my ears can tune a seventy-five piece band. Getting the label was important because it explained everything from that to the social awkwardness that got me bullied and the fact that I can neither thow nor catch. It also explained why big, scary adults kept draging me into little, whitewashed rooms, threatening me, insulting me, screaming at me, and making me take IQ tests that were not administered to my classmates. It explained my parents' overprotectiveness, the way teachers sometimes acted strangely around me, and why all the other kids thought I was weird. It gives me ties to other people like me. I might have killed myself by now if I thought I was the only one, a fluke, a freak. It links me back to a common identity from which I can draw strength.

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22 Jan 2011, 10:23 pm

It stopped me having any sort of a healthy emotional life, and instead forces me to square up to the cold heartless b***h that is Existence.

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