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17 Mar 2011, 1:11 am

I'm going around in circles here. There are lots of other threads for me to post in. There's no need in me getting myself banned over Auti$m $peak$.

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17 Mar 2011, 1:32 am

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:

kfisherx wrote:

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CockneyRebel wrote:

. . . That autism is not a life sentence and that there are a lot of people on the spectrum who are happy and successful. . .

There are plenty of examples of people like Mozart or Jim Hensen who are highly successful. What the Civil Rights / ordinary human treatment / consideration and support for people on the Asperger's / Autism Spectrum needs are abundant examples of people who are medium successful.

Now, here's the tricky part. Coming out is a personal decision. And it's normal to come out in stages, disclosing in some situations, not others. Sometimes it goes well, sometimes it doesn't, and a lot of times you can't really tell how it went. Not an obligation, that's dry as dust. More like an open green field, and then feel and texture.

Uh... I am HIGHLY succesful.

I have looked high and low in the Portland area and there are not others like me around here.

A very, VERY high percentage are on SSI or suffering from other comorbid conditions that keep them for even begining to go where I am.

...just saying...

kfisherx, thank you for your very good work.

Both here at WrongPlanet and elsewhere.

The only thing I would ask, if you find yourself in position as employer or boss, please don't try and be a perfect boss for that's a trap. Just try and be a boss in the top 50% and that is plenty good enough.

PS I kind of remember you're in computers. I tried to get into programming about ten years ago and found that these human resource types rule the world, or at least this corner of it.

LOL! I am already a senior manager. I hired another team member just today and I strive to be the best that I can be. In fact I learned today that in all my 360 feedback (people from below, beside and above me) there was not ONE piece of critisim. Nothing bad. That is actually unheard of and I am blown away by that. Top 50% is NEVER enough for me. I would not be where I am today if I settled for top 50%.

Thanks for the advice and the compliments. I will continue to shoot for the stars as long as I can hold on to do so.

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17 Mar 2011, 7:06 am

CockneyRebel wrote:

I'm going around in circles here. There are lots of other threads for me to post in. There's no need in me getting myself banned over Auti$m $peak$.

I don't think you've broken any rules yet, so I don't think you'll get banned.

I agree with you......if Auti$m $peak$ got shut down, the individuals would still have a right to free speech, as individuals, just like we have. The only thing they'd lose would be their media access, but you never said they have a right to that.

Their attempts to sue people for poking a bit of fun look quite vicious to me. One good sign is that they're obviously paranoid about their public image - that looks like a weakness, a Chinese in their armour that we might be able to use to get our revenge and to discredit them.

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17 Mar 2011, 7:56 am

ToughDiamond wrote:

Their attempts to sue people for poking a bit of fun look quite vicious to me. One good sign is that they're obviously paranoid about their public image - that looks like a weakness, a Chinese in their armour that we might be able to use to get our revenge and to discredit them.

This is where I part ways. Revenge is poor motivation for anything. Autism Speaks smells of heavy handed monied interests and I have reservations about some of their activities and assumption that the speak for the autism community at large. But they are not entirely evil. I even resent that I sense pressure to choose sides. The worst thing for autism is to have an internecine struggle for dominance of thought.

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17 Mar 2011, 9:15 am

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Revenge is poor motivation for anything.

I was going to say something like "to stop them harming others," but that sounded pretentious. And I don't see why revenge always has to be a bad thing......I've seen it do good.

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The worst thing for autism is to have an internecine struggle for dominance of thought.

I don't think it's that bad yet. So far, we're just trying to get them down onto our level. I haven't heard talk of actually taking over their manor.

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17 Mar 2011, 9:31 am

Molecular_Biologist wrote:

...The funny thing is that so many of you "proud aspies" are so crippled by AS that there aren't enough of you functioning at a high enough level to organize effectively and force your views on anyone else.

All you can do is impotently post angry messages to internet forums from anonymous accounts.

^^^THIS^^^

All of you pro-autism Autistics gather together and see if you can find enough high-functioning like-minded autistics to affect ANY sort of change to any cause let alone shut down a valid business with a worthy cause. I would LOVE to see anyone prove this statement wrong. As much as it hurts and it sucks, he is 10000% right.

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17 Mar 2011, 10:30 am

Shutting down ANYBODY, is NOT the answer.

Freedom of speech belongs to everyone.

Even the idiots.

The best that anyone should be hoping for is to simply find other ways of speaking out, that they can't shut up. Autism Speaks is not omnipotent.

The idea of shutting them up simply lowers you to the same level. It's NOT the answer.

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17 Mar 2011, 11:03 am

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You bring forward a very good point. Imagine how we'd feel if Autism Speaks were to shut WrongPlanet down.

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17 Mar 2011, 11:19 am

:roll:

Do people really have to rehash this topic again, and again, and again, and again?

Especially in a case of thread-necromancy?

I'm seeing that a lot lately. I don't mind it so much when it's about some random topic that someone replied to from a few years ago. But I've seen some threads where like... well in one case it was a thread where people were arguing, and the person who had resurrected the thread hadn't even posted on it. They just posted "..." or something like that. As if they were just trying to stir up another round of dead-horse-flogging. And then they sat back and watched the show, presumably, without getting involved in any other way except starting the fight all over again.

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17 Mar 2011, 12:15 pm

anbuend wrote:

:roll:
Do people really have to rehash this topic again, and again, and again, and again?

I believe the correct term is "broken record syndrome"

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17 Mar 2011, 12:23 pm

voyage-one wrote:

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Do people really have to rehash this topic again, and again, and again, and again?

I believe the correct term is "broken record syndrome"

Does this fall under repetitive, stereotyped "movement"?

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17 Mar 2011, 12:26 pm

anbuend wrote:

Only lately? Haven't been on much? It's pretty consistent from where I sit.

It's not usually a matter of "re"-hashing. For most of these people that are starting threads about it, it's a fresh topic to them. It will NEVER stop being brought up. Might as well get used to it. This thread isn't necro, it's new, but I know what you mean, that does happen a lot, and will continue to. Might as well get used to it.

"Hmm.. I'm sick to death of that topic" = "Not gonna post to it and help keep it alive."

Pretty simple formula for a grief free visit here. :wink:

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17 Mar 2011, 12:27 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:

voyage-one wrote:

anbuend wrote:

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Do people really have to rehash this topic again, and again, and again, and again?

I believe the correct term is "broken record syndrome"

Does this fall under repetitive, stereotyped "movement"?

ROTFMAO! I <3 you!

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17 Mar 2011, 12:29 pm

MrXxx wrote:

anbuend wrote:

Oh, hmm.. I thought this particular thread was started by the first post pointing back to a thread from 2008 or something. Maybe I got the wrong thread.

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17 Mar 2011, 1:59 pm

I have two thoughts on Autism Speaks:

1. They are not as educated as they need to be, and they seem to claim to speak for all on the spectrum. Bad.

2. They seem to be working for a cure for Autistic Disorder, which is a good thing. Very different from Aspergers, I've seen AD really mess with some poor children. I can't think of a single child, if given the awareness to make the choice between remaining Autistic and receiving a treatment to remove the condition who would choose to remain autistic.

This being said, I think that Aspergers needs to be distanced from Autism. Not because they are dissimilar, but because of laziness of media and public in their perceptions.

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17 Mar 2011, 4:11 pm

Charities in NZ like cancer this or heart foundation that or whatever, dont actually appear to do any good at all.

Figures for most disorders keep rising no matter how much money they make or are given.

They ALL seem like a scam to me, directors on big salaries in huge cars.....I hate seeing my money going to those guys

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