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Do you have hyperlexia?
Yes (and ASD) 73%  73%  [ 68 ]
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17 Apr 2011, 11:08 pm

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In the past I often found myself using words from the English language, when writing, that I knew were correct in context, but later had to look up in the dictionary to find out what they meant.


Same.

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And, listened to common phrases in language heard a thousand times like stuffed shirt knowing it meant something bad about a person, but being overwhelmed with a picture of a shirt and stuffing, only to realize much later in the life that it was a person with no personality.


Is that what stuffed shirt means? OKAY THEN.

Seriously, I knew it was negative, but I didn't know that. Lots of idioms, I recognize by context without knowing what they literally mean. I intellectually know, so I can stop and translate, but not in real time.

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That makes me wonder if taking things literally is related to issues with comprehension.

I think for me it was kind of a blessing also, because while I knew that many of the things were bad that I was called in middle school, I didn't know what they really meant because they were slang. I guess I was lucky there was no internet and access to an urban dictionary, because it might have made the situation more depressing.


Yeah, I get this too. There were a lot of words I learned were "bad" because I repeated them.


Being naive for me was great in so many ways. I never really considered myself odd unless someone told me specifically what it was that was odd and when they did, it was a shock to me, because I didn't have a clue that what I was doing, wearing, or saying was odd. I understand much of it now that I didn't understand before; (mostly because of google) but as I look back in that world of naivety it wasn't such a bad place to be; I was convinced the world was a fair place, naivety to the extreme. and a little like heaven on earth.

I don't think I would have ever lived in that place, in the state of our culture today. The 60's and 70's were a good time to grow up. Vietnam was bad; another advantage of being born past the sixties with no fear of being drafted into something like that.



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17 Apr 2011, 11:20 pm

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Being naive for me was great in so many ways. I never really considered myself odd unless someone told me specifically what it was that was odd and when they did, it was a shock to me, because I didn't have a clue that what I was doing, wearing, or saying was odd. I understand much of it now that I didn't understand before; (mostly because of google) but as I look back in that world of naivety it wasn't such a bad place to be; I was convinced the world was a fair place, naivety to the extreme. and a little like heaven on earth.

I don't think I would have ever lived in that place, in the state of our culture today. The 60's and 70's were a good time to grow up. Vietnam was bad; another advantage of being born past the sixties with no fear of being drafted into something like that.


I am only just working out how naive I've been. What you say about "I never really considered myself odd..." really resonates with me, as I didn't really realize I was unless someone told me.

I knew that things were not good in certain ways, and I was increasingly aware of a lot of things over time, but I was pretty naive about myself for a long time.



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17 Apr 2011, 11:47 pm

aghogday wrote:
Being naive for me was great in so many ways. I never really considered myself odd unless someone told me specifically what it was that was odd and when they did, it was a shock to me, because I didn't have a clue that what I was doing, wearing, or saying was odd. I understand much of it now that I didn't understand before; (mostly because of google) but as I look back in that world of naivety it wasn't such a bad place to be; I was convinced the world was a fair place, naivety to the extreme. and a little like heaven on earth.


I'm astonished by how naive I was when I was growing up. There were so many things that I didn't know. I don't know how much of this was due to some sort of social immaturity and how much was due to social isolation. I guess that it was a combination of both. I didn't learn most of the common swear words, gestures, and such things until well after my peers. When I did learn them, I got criticized because I didn't know what they meant. The sort of criticism that I got showed that I didn't understand them.


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18 Apr 2011, 12:51 am

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Being naive for me was great in so many ways. I never really considered myself odd unless someone told me specifically what it was that was odd and when they did, it was a shock to me, because I didn't have a clue that what I was doing, wearing, or saying was odd. I understand much of it now that I didn't understand before; (mostly because of google) but as I look back in that world of naivety it wasn't such a bad place to be; I was convinced the world was a fair place, naivety to the extreme. and a little like heaven on earth.

I don't think I would have ever lived in that place, in the state of our culture today. The 60's and 70's were a good time to grow up. Vietnam was bad; another advantage of being born past the sixties with no fear of being drafted into something like that.


I am only just working out how naive I've been. What you say about "I never really considered myself odd..." really resonates with me, as I didn't really realize I was unless someone told me.

I knew that things were not good in certain ways, and I was increasingly aware of a lot of things over time, but I was pretty naive about myself for a long time.


There were no divisions of NT and AS when I was growing up, I often had a vague feeling that I was unusually different from everyone else; I convinced myself it wasn't a bad difference.

One thing that stands out for me in highschool, as a member of the Beta club for those that were academically bright and often eccentric, was when the President of the club said one meeting; welcome Ladies and Gentleman, and Aghogday (not my real name). I just smiled. I wouldn't let anything get me down after much worse experiences in middle school. A continued theme throughout my life.

It is so important to feel welcome in this world and not an outcast. And even more important not to cast one's self out. The best part of life for me was feeling so much a part of everything, not just people, but everything in my environment; it didn't matter how different I was, as long as I was convinced that I belonged.



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18 Apr 2011, 10:04 am

aghogday wrote:
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Thanks for the explanation. I was a bit confused about it all myself. :)
It reminds me of how I can make people (including native speakers) believe I know foreign languages by reading passages out loud, even though I have no idea what I'm saying. :lol: That's probably not the same thing though.




In the past I often found myself using words from the English language, when writing, that I knew were correct in context, but later had to look up in the dictionary to find out what they meant.

And, listened to common phrases in language heard a thousand times like stuffed shirt knowing it meant something bad about a person, but being overwhelmed with a picture of a shirt and stuffing, only to realize much later in the life that it was a person with no personality.

That makes me wonder if taking things literally is related to issues with comprehension.

I think for me it was kind of a blessing also, because while I knew that many of the things were bad that I was called in middle school, I didn't know what they really meant because they were slang. I guess I was lucky there was no internet and access to an urban dictionary, because it might have made the situation more depressing.

Even now when I hear people talk about white trailer trash; I just think about trash in a trailer and how the words flow together nicely and don't really picture a negative connotation towards the people it is directed at, although I know it is a negative statement toward those people.

And finally, is the general condition of naivety related to the comprehension issue and possibly hyperlexia, in that maybe it makes it worse.

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29 Jul 2011, 9:40 am

Can't say if I'm "hyper"lexic but I was definitely strong with written language, had poor comprehension and struggle with verbal communication.

My family immigrated from China to Australia when I was about six, so I had no exposure to English before then.

Within a year or two of starting primary school I soon overtook my peers in terms of spelling and reading, and I always aced my spelling tests. I found it very easy to visually break up a word into smaller parts. Of course if the tests asked to define or use a word in a sentence, I usually get screwed. When encountering a new word, I always had good intuition on how to pronounce it and can usually spell it after seeing it once.

My comprehension eventually caught up. However I did notice something else too, whenever I was asked to read aloud to a group of people, I could easily verbalise what I'm reading with perfect pronounciation, but find that I'm not comprehending what I'm reading (I'm guessing it's because I can only concentrate on one thing at a time). So after I read a paragraph out aloud and someone asks me what I thought about it, I would just have a blank look on my face haha.



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29 Jul 2011, 4:38 pm

Nope.

However, my mom says that I knew all my colours at 18 months of age.



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29 Jul 2011, 7:05 pm

ocdgirl123 wrote:
Nope.

However, my mom says that I knew all my colours at 18 months of age.


I knew my colours long before I could talk as well. Well, I didn't speak until 2 1/2 then regressed completely, but my mom found out I knew my colours before I was a year old.


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29 Jul 2011, 10:32 pm

Hyperlexic and AS here.

And probably one of the hugest speed-readers you'll ever meet. D:



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29 Jul 2011, 10:45 pm

littlelily613 wrote:
ocdgirl123 wrote:
Nope.

However, my mom says that I knew all my colours at 18 months of age.


I knew my colours long before I could talk as well. Well, I didn't speak until 2 1/2 then regressed completely, but my mom found out I knew my colours before I was a year old.


I could talk, my skipped the "mama" "dada" stage and went straight on to "mommy" and "daddy". My first word was actually "daddy".



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09 Aug 2011, 12:15 am

My first word was "Walrus". And I was told that I spoke it clearly.

A family friend babysat me. He was always showing me an alphabet book with pictures in it.
My family always has loved bringing up how I chose walrus over any other ordinary illustrated letter in the book.

Not daddy or mommy......but walrus.

How weird. I'm glad they have always gotten amusement out of the walrus deal. :lol:

I was always really into writing and spelling. But always avoided reading anything in it's entirety. I still only dig through articles and passages for info.

I can't get into reading a book because I slow down when it's a story and always want to re-read things over and over because I feel like I am going to miss some details to the story. Kinda sucks......but my attention span isn't very long when I am not interested in something. And real long when I get engrossed in something.

did not know word fascination was categorized til now....



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09 Aug 2011, 12:50 am

I was hyperlexic in elementary school, but I have since realized that little details don't matter, and the bigger picture is more important. I'd now consider myself more on the dyslexic end of that spectrum.


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09 Aug 2011, 1:00 am

I'm not sure when I began reading, but I remember being really frustrated in 1st grade when they were making me read the easy books because I couldn't pronounce the words in the harder books. I also had situations other times during school where I ended up being given books that I was the only one in the class allowed to read (and using me as the easiest person to fit in for the reading tests).

I also have by far the fastest reading speed the person testing me for asperger's has ever seen. He didn't believe me when I said it was my normal reading speed, but I do tend to read about 2000 wpm.


For my reading speed there's a solid story of "I didn't think myself odd". In 4th grade we had assigned reading to do in class. We were to put books back when we finished reading the section. I noticed that nobody else had finished reading when I finished, so I assumed that we were to read it twice, that way we'd be able to pick up more details. So I'd read it a second time, and would be the second student done. This logically meant that reading it twice was what we were always supposed to do - of course that's what everyone was doing. One day I was really bored with what we were reading so I decided to just read it once. So I finished, put down the book, and said "Done." It happened that the teacher was leaning against the wall in front of my desk, reading the same chapter he assigned to us. And reacted very surprised as he hadn't finished. I confirmed that I'd finished reading, and he started realizing quite how strong and fast of a reader I was.

But truthfully, until that point I thought that everyone just read everything twice before being done reading.


I liked my 4th grade teacher. He gave me books to read that he wouldn't let anyone else read because they were too advanced, he admitted I read fast and took advantage of this because he had to test our reading abilities multiple times throughout the year, and would just test me based off of the time available rather than alphabetically like he was "supposed to". He also realized logic puzzles were one of my strengths and explaining to other students what to do was one of my weaknesses and started having me explain the logic puzzles every friday.






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My first word was "Walrus". And I was told that I spoke it clearly.


My first word might have been "Fish" - I know it was one of my first two words (the other being "Daddy". According to my parents I liked sitting in front of my grandparent's aquarium repeating "Daddy Fish"



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09 Aug 2011, 6:57 am

I know an NT child of 6 who (according to her school report) is very good at reading and writing, and very good at socialising too.


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09 Aug 2011, 7:10 am

Not sure if I was hyperlexive, but I was reading early and my reading comprehension was apparently high above my age level (one of the few things they actually tested me for as a kid) - but I had problems reading out loud, as I recall.

I still don't know if I'm AS - I see (from the no doubt highly reliable wikipedia page on hyperlexia) that one of the groups that have this are kids with 'autistic like traits that fade over time'. That might describe me.



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09 Aug 2011, 8:09 am

I wasn't a precocious reader - I learnt to read at 6 when my teachers taught me - but within a short while I was way ahead in reading ability. But I didn't lag behind in comprehension relative to decoding, if anything my decoding lagged behind a bit because there were a lot of words in my written vocabulary but not my spoken one. When I tried to say those words, I'd pronounce them phonetically with a bit of a French accent (I learnt decoding in a French immersion class). But I knew exactly what they meant. My Dad would often ask me to define the words because he didn't understand my pronunciation, and he could guess the word from my definition.

Even now, I notice a subtle difference where my writing is better than my speech. Speech is a strength for me, but writing is an incredible strength for me. I can say things much more eloquently in writing than verbally (unless I rehearse beforehand). And when my speech breaks down due to stress, my writing is always one level better than my speech.