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05 Aug 2006, 8:36 pm

I have answer that there is no need to bring this conversation because there is a place for this. Space alien out of this world wrongplanet yes.


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07 Aug 2006, 3:15 pm

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I don't wish to sound callous but am I the only one that doesn't care about 9/11 or care that people died?


I cared, I just didn't feel any empathy toward the families, while everyone around me seemed to.



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08 Aug 2006, 10:08 am

It depends all quite simply on whether or not you truly believe there is a God.
I think there is not a God & therefore Autism as any other 'disorders' are all just genetic creations & only to be researched in order to give us knowledge & a clearer picture of our biological make-up. I believe there are as many strengths in AS as there are weaknesses (although sometimes it is hard to think positively, I know) but I do also think it unfair that NTs (sometimes) breeze through life & we never will. Then again, many NTs have issues like depression, alcoholism, mental & physical disorders & illnesses, so it's not all about any one lot being better off than the other. :)



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08 Aug 2006, 10:50 am

Its turtles all the way down.



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08 Aug 2006, 11:18 am

God wanted to make us all different. That's why.



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08 Aug 2006, 12:07 pm

Good point girl.


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08 Aug 2006, 10:51 pm

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, God doesn't want you to be miserable. God made you the way your are for a reason. Maybe you should try and find out what it is.


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09 Aug 2006, 1:13 am

KenM wrote:
How come God lets people with AS feel lonely and depressed all the time while other superficcal people are happy? How come God is evil and lets people with AS continue to suffer?


i've come to the conclusion that non-as folk are not happier. social interaction is not a requirement for happiness.
many non-as people i know are very lonely and unhappy despite a plethora of friends. loneliness and unhappiness are just certian aspects of the human condition. we all have that.

as star trek's spock once said "Captain, we all make our own purgatory, and mine can be no worse than yours." :wink:



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09 Aug 2006, 3:02 am

bizarre wrote:
God made you the way your are for a reason. Maybe you should try and find out what it is.
Does that apply to people with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome)? Why make someone mentally retarted and prone to violence?



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09 Aug 2006, 4:22 am

Correct me if I'm wrong oochoc - but surely fetal alcohol syndrome is quite obviously an affliction caused by the Mother of the unborn child consuming vast amounts of alcohol, drugs etc, so surely the blame has to lie there & knowhere else basically.



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09 Aug 2006, 7:03 am

ooh_choc wrote:
bizarre wrote:
God made you the way your are for a reason. Maybe you should try and find out what it is.
Does that apply to people with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome)? Why make someone mentally retarted and prone to violence?


I think mullion is right.



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09 Aug 2006, 5:05 pm

mullion wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong oochoc - but surely fetal alcohol syndrome is quite obviously an affliction caused by the Mother of the unborn child consuming vast amounts of alcohol, drugs etc, so surely the blame has to lie there & knowhere else basically.
Yes, but he could still have prevented it. Not doing so is like sitting by watching small children play on a railway line. Either he doesn't care, or he isn't powerful enough.



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09 Aug 2006, 7:25 pm

Now there is a question of epic proportions for many of us! -- Why did God create me (and us) as were are, as Aspies?

I tend to think that there are many answers to that.... and mystery to it as well.

In my own life, I have at many times questioned this, and in an indiect way, debated God relentlessly about it. Ultimately I don't know...

Issues that I grapple with include:
- the dilemma of "original sin" and the fall of man in Genesis...
- the fact that evil, disease, and various hardships inherently exist & sometimes
abound in our world
- and that God in fact created me as I am.

Yet... for me it goes beyond these 'solutions.' As someone diagnosed with Asperger / HFA later in life (age 34, so not that much later in life), I am at peace with it. Yes I march to the beat of a different drummer & often will find myself in difficult social situations.... AND most profoundly I believe that God uses the most unique type of people to follow Him and touch other people's lives in ways that... perhaps, neuro-typicals (NTs) would not always comprehend & appreciate. Asperger Sydrome does seem to generate a keen ability to see things & interpret things differently, and bring to attention spiritual things of great mystery & significance that otherwise would be unknown.
I am not glad that I have AS / HFA, but I am "beyond words" thankful for how God uses me to see things in a different perspective.
Albeit my opinions / perspectives are not always appreciated... but they will cause others (and myself!) to stop & think about our roles in this world.

So, I am as I am... different. No I am not perfect, but I am convinced that God's glory & love can at times be made more visible & manifest & known *because* of the very imperfections I have. HE has a certain knack of working that way.
Many of the lives of saints in centuries past, when learned about & studied, will undoubtedly show that even the greatest of human beings struggle furiously with self doubt, criticism from peers (some to the point of persecution & martyrdom), and some very eccentric traits! (the life of St Francis of Assisi comes to mind)

Hope I was encouraging here.

Many blessings!



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09 Aug 2006, 8:31 pm

There is no point in believing in God if you are just going to think he is out to get you and that everything wrong is delibrately HIS fault.

Religious or not, if you believe in a god, maybe you believe in a heaven after life too. And if so, ask yourself, what purpose is all this, why are we even here?

No one is PUNISHING us. Life has ups and downs, problems and solutions, sufferers and those having a BLAST - if everyone lived in the exact same way with no problems, WHY would we even be here, and wouldn't it bore you to death? We came here to experience and OVERCOME negativity, to learn for our greater eternal self. It was our OWN choice to come and live a life on earth, and by saying that, also our OWN choice to have exactly the type of life we have now. We planned our life this very way, and we did so for some very good reason. If you don't know what your purpose in life is, (neither do I), you just have yet to find it out. But believe me, being depressed SUCKS and it doesn't get you ANYWHERE. you HAVE to try and remain positive, and yes, s**t happens, but so does glee apparantely and all sorts of good stuff. Find out what is missing in your life and what you can do to discover the good stuff! Dwelling on your pain and letting it to consume you is only going to make you feel worse and bring you more of the same. It takes a spiritual awakening withen you to go 'OK! I've had ENOUGH of this, what can I do to change this!' And then get out there, and seek action! You are at Wrong Planet so thats a great first step! You also have to learn how to like yourself and where there are councelling services around you to help.

Ok, so I don't exactly know what will help because I'm rather lost in life myself too, and in the midst of finding out what I can do, but the point is, YOU CAN FEEL BETTER!

You CAN find happiness! AS or not, you're here for a reason and you're not meant to be miserable your whole life, so find out how to change it! Easier said than done ofcourse, but thats what message boards are for - talking.

Also remember, for whatever flaws you may have and whatever you are lacking, you also have positive traits that others don't. I believe the world must be balanced in some way, and those who are suffering are probably doing so to help others (hard to explain). Everyone has a reason for being! You just have yet to discover it. But please don't be so hard on yourself or God, because blame ultimately doesn't really solve anything now does it?

Best wishes, I hope you find your way. :wink:



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09 Aug 2006, 10:01 pm

I am a Christian but I must say that evolution created us . Aspergers was inevitable no matter the name it was given. An individual that contributes to the sucess of a group without fully being able to exploit that contribution is to valuable to the group to lose.


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21 Aug 2006, 12:24 am

AS is certainly a disabling condition and has it's negative points. But...

AS is also a gift in my opinion and I thank God for who I am. My AS allows me to be an artist as well as a special ed teacher (since I understand disabilities from personal experience). I believe that some of the greatest thinkers in history had AS, like Einstein. AS allows me to think in nonconventional ways, and nonconventional thinking is where inventions, stories, movies, and other things get their start.

So, I don't blame God, I thank him.