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08 May 2011, 6:56 am

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In all seriousness, though, social ettiquette seems to be very important in Japan. So, in spite of there being a lot of weird stuff that comes from Japan (though some of it actually has some interesting reasons), autistics likely would have more trouble fitting in than in other countries. What's interesting is that, it being an entirely different culture with a different language, I seem to be able to follow the social norms I know better when I'm speaking Japanese than when I'm speaking English.


My wife wants me to give up Japanese anime. That's the funniest thing about Japan, they produce the most mind blowing art work and design, yet they are a completely homogeneous, serious impassive society. Apologies to any Japanese posters here, you guys are weird yet so cool.



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08 May 2011, 7:08 am

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That's the funniest thing about Japan, they produce the most mind blowing art work and design, yet they are a completely homogeneous, serious impassive society.


There's probably a correlation.

I'm reminded of a Flaubert quote: “Be regular and orderly in your life like a bourgeois, so that you may be violent and original in your work.”


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08 May 2011, 7:35 am

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There's probably a correlation.

I suspect a confirmation bias on my part. I'm projecting Japanese creativity is somehow greater because it's an accessible schema I carry and draw upon to make the correlation your referring to.

But now that you mention it Pokemon is kinda violent for little kids.



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08 May 2011, 9:22 am

cyberdad wrote:
Moog wrote:
There's probably a correlation.

I suspect a confirmation bias on my part. I'm projecting Japanese creativity is somehow greater because it's an accessible schema I carry and draw upon to make the correlation your referring to.

But now that you mention it Pokemon is kinda violent for little kids.


I think Flaubert was talking about artistic violence, not actual violence.

What I was getting at was, that in a highly structured, regulated and conservative culture (as I am led to believe Japan is), it's highly likely that some of the repressed urges that are not allowed free expression in the everyday come out in wild and fantastic creativity in art.

There's the ultra conservative and self sacrificing persona in the public life, and then the extremes of weirdness given free reign in the private life.

I'm trying and failing to put this in better terms, but this will have to do.


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08 May 2011, 12:44 pm

In Australia, all the wierd people migrate to Tasmania!



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08 May 2011, 1:37 pm

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What I was getting at was, that in a highly structured, regulated and conservative culture (as I am led to believe Japan is), it's highly likely that some of the repressed urges that are not allowed free expression in the everyday come out in wild and fantastic creativity in art.


I don't think it has to do with repression. In society, having well-controlled actions is beneficial. In art (especially humorous art or art intended to be thought-provoking), it's detrimental. As we can see, practicality can easily play a role.


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08 May 2011, 2:03 pm

Live music performances can be fun. The majority of shows I have been too had a lot of cool people. Comedy clubs can be a lot of fun too.


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08 May 2011, 10:34 pm

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What I was getting at was, that in a highly structured, regulated and conservative culture (as I am led to believe Japan is), it's highly likely that some of the repressed urges that are not allowed free expression in the everyday come out in wild and fantastic creativity in art..


No you are probably close to the mark. This reminds me of certain psychiatric conditions where patients see weird patterns on a Rorschach's inkblots or serial killers who unable to express their inner desire paint "hell like" images or repressed individuals often victims of abuse drawing images of people lost in places that are dark and haunting.



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08 May 2011, 10:37 pm

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In Australia, all the wierd people migrate to Tasmania!

LOL! not nice :shameonyou:



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08 May 2011, 10:38 pm

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Are there places that are more tolerant of "weird people" than physical science departments in universities?

Universities are a good place to go to be "weird." It's more appreciated there, but don't be too weird or people will get paranoid.



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09 May 2011, 12:32 am

The Moon.

No matter where I turn the" weirdness" follows, e.g. I just heard yesterday from a past acquaintance said that we were weird..... :lol: And the "score" usually comes from women.

I always try to get a ' glimpse' of these assessments by analyzing what they see or how I do look, and I've come up with a few :

* there can be a randomness that is out of context.....
* with enough time there is evidence of immaturity or age appropriate stigmas for my age.
* saying things that people only dare think.
* mannerisms such as snapping fingers or an over emphasis in body language....(eccentric)

Overall, I sense that there is a fundamental and possibly significant difference between myself and Joe and Jane, from sense of humor, intellect, introverted interests, dis- inhibitions, mannerisms, etc.... (a best unbiased neutral observation as possible.)



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09 May 2011, 2:37 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
simfish wrote:
Are there places that are more tolerant of "weird people" than physical science departments in universities?

Universities are a good place to go to be "weird." It's more appreciated there, but don't be too weird or people will get paranoid.


I used to work in a Law faculty and "weirdness" is simply not tolerated.



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09 May 2011, 3:16 am

In some places in a university, weirdness would be shunned, but in fields such as the sciences, the arts, and computer work (though I think this one is because of the high number of autistics that go into this field), weirdness may be accepted or even encouraged (depending on the culture of the particular university).


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09 May 2011, 4:14 am

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In Australia, all the wierd people migrate to Tasmania!


Unless they're ambitious weird people, in which case they move to Canberra.



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09 May 2011, 5:02 am

Ishtara wrote:
ShadesofGra wrote:
In Australia, all the wierd people migrate to Tasmania!


Unless they're ambitious weird people, in which case they move to Canberra.

Ambitious and self centered.



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09 May 2011, 8:14 am

I live in a suburb of Auckland called Grey Lynn. Plenty of weirdness here.

When I moved here 20 years ago it felt like coming home