how can someone be proud of having aspergers?

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This is a blatent lie, aspies see the world in confusion and if not in a sound quiet place to go to after entering the real world, serious stress occurs, i think i can speak for all aspies on this part, tell me an aspie who like to go to the club or busy streets with no one to meet or talk with who likes all the noise and sensory input from all angles and direction non stop.

I dont like liars.

You can't speak for all Aspies, so please don't.

Neither does ChinaCatSunflower, for that matter. Everyone's different.

Why does it matter to you whether other autistic people relate to their autism the same way you do?

I have the biggest ego and pride ever, as a kid I thought I was the incarnation of an old Pagan god. Yes, I'm serious.

On the other hand I am also ashamed of being 'handicapped'.

This is true. The spectrum is wide and vast, like a multi-dimensional universe. Aspergers is a small part of that spectrum, but Aspergers is also wide and vast. One aspie might be galaxies away from another and therefore have a profoundly different perspective.

I did not mean to offend anyone who sees Aspergers Syndrome as more of a problem than an asset. Believe it or not, for some of us it is a great gift and a wonderful experience that does present some challenges of its own but the overall effect of it is quite positive. Perhaps I occupy a place that is galaxies away from those who see it as a problem (and perhaps I am really lucky because of that), but I can tell you all that there are places in huge Aspergers universe that are really quite peaceful and wonderful.

Before you accuse others of lying, perhaps you should learn the facts of the matter.

I am aspie. What I see of the world, I see with remarkable clarity. I have GREAT difficulty communicating what I see. And, what I don't see of the world (especially social information) causes me much difficulty. But DON'T EVER accuse me of seeing only confusion. That would make you ignorant. And ignorance, especially willful ignorance, is as destructive as lying.

Im NT and even I can see the ways in which AS can be advantageous sometimes. If someone doesn't fully understand social boundaries and rules for example, this also means they're not bound by them. People are so bogged down in the things that they feel must and must not be done, must and must not be said, for no reason other than they feel that this is what is expected, despite the fact nobody could ever say WHY these things are expected, other than that other people also feel this is expected of THEM therefore everyone must behave the same way. To not be bound by that? I'd kill for that sometimes. And another thing is just the general way of thinking. I'm a bright guy, good with logic, but also imaginitive and inventive and capable of thinking at things from all kinds of anges, but there are times when my AS girfriend can bring in insights and thoughts I could never hope to come up with myself.

I'm not, of course, saying AS is all roses and buttercups, but to see it as purely a burden, to hold you back and shame you, is foolish.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

ChinaCatSunflower,

I wasn't offended, just to be clear. I think I stated my point badly, but I was just really annoyed with the whole "I can speak for everyone" thing from Panic.

No worries. I didn't mean you specifically, but anyone who might have been offended.

I love these forums, an obvious trolling and people just start up and discussing the issue instead of trying to argue

Now I don't see the world as only confusion. I tend to think that I see the world with remarkable clarity. The only confusing bit is the other people . What wavefreak58 said sums it up just about perfectly.

It maybe a burden but for me, its actually help me meet others who are like me. I've also been around a lot of people with other disabilities that I have become good school friends with.

I have gift for writing as well... so at times it is a burden but I also realize I can do some things other people find extraordinary for my skills.

I am no prouder of my AS than I am of the fact that I have blonde hair and blue eyes. It was simply something I was born with (unless you subscribe to the idea that it is caused by vaccinations), and so I don't see it as anything to be proud of; the things I can accomplish because or in spite of it can be a source of pride for me though

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See you round some I hope .... I do outdoor analogue projections... things like oilwheels but on a very big scale, I build all the kit myself....

also interested in EM, used to build my own modular synths...

I am able to smell a fire before most people. I can hear problems with things before other people. I am not controlled by being social. So I am proud to be an aspie. How can you not be?

I'm not proud of having this awful disorder. I get picked upon when I'm out alone in the street, because people can sense how stupid I am, and if you don't think I am stupid just because I'm an Aspie who's meant to be intelligent, then get this: when I first had media player on my computer, I didn't want to press the button what says ''burn CD'' when a CD was in the drive, because I thought it meant the computer would actually burn the CD, so I'll never see it again! Now, come on, nobody could get as stupid as that! Another example is until last year I always thought that New Zealand was a place in Britain. So there are a couple of examples which describe how stupid I am.
But anyway - back to the point. Did you know, that today I was innocently sitting on the bus, when a woman whom I didn't know came upto my seat, grabbed my handbag (which was on the seat next to me), literally threw it onto my lap, said, ''ta'', and sat down in the seat next to me, even though there were plenty of empty seats on the bus? Now, that just proves that I'm stupid, because I don't think anyone would pick up somebody's bag and sit in the seat next to them knowing that the person wouldn't say anything. So I must look dumb all the time. I don't like that. It makes me feel uncomfortable, walking out in the street knowing that people can see my stupidity and practically take the piss. It depresses me. I find it so hard to go out on my own, yet I don't want to be housebound, yet if I ask somebody to take a walk to the shops with me they just look at me and start lecturing, ''you are old enough to walk out on your own....'' and all that s**t, when really, that is not the point. I thought NTs would understand me wanting company, because they always do.

I am often ashamed of that. Somethime I think I'm a bad person because of this, like when something bad happens to someone and I fell just a bit sorry instead of fell so sorry to the point of criyng and whine.
I have no special talents and my intelligence is below average. This does means I am also stupid.

About special interests and obsession, I don't see what is bad with them. I like those things. But this doesn't means i am proud of them, I'm just neutral.