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14 Jun 2011, 2:56 pm

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In my interest in prisons I came across slang they use and child molestors are called "chomo's".
They definitely hate them in prison and I think part of the reason is because a lot of the may have been abused. And I also read about their criminal code which that goes against for most of them.


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14 Jun 2011, 3:13 pm

Todesking, I'm currently in Hudson, a medium level facility. I'm not sure about other states, but child molesters and gays are not automatically segregated here in New York. The child molesters and gays I've worked with managed to get along with the general population well enough, which surprised me. Generally speaking, inmates judge you less on what you've done and more on what you do.


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14 Jun 2011, 3:43 pm

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Todesking, I'm currently in Hudson, a medium level facility. I'm not sure about other states, but child molesters and gays are not automatically segregated here in New York. The child molesters and gays I've worked with managed to get along with the general population well enough, which surprised me. Generally speaking, inmates judge you less on what you've done and more on what you do.


How does your Aspegers effect you as a prison guard if at all? My cousin is NT and says he has a hard time knowing when they are lying to him so he just considers all of them to be lying or trying something.


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15 Jun 2011, 5:06 am

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In order to get a cell to yourself, wouldn't they put you in solitary confinement, which is you staying alone 24/7 with a small window of exercise, say maybe an hour long and a chance to take a shower every now and then. That would be too much for me. I don't know if I would like that, unless a television and cable were with me.

Yep. You can exercise in your cell, it'd be a bit cramped but you still have some space to move around. You'd only have to interact with other people for about an hour a day if even that. You would be able to get a TV in there. I've seen a good few documentaries about US prisons and the guys in 24 hour lockdown in maximum security prisons always have TV's in their cells. Thats all they really have though. You could probably get the guards to bring you stuff like books from time to time too.



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15 Jun 2011, 10:07 am

cnidocyte wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
In order to get a cell to yourself, wouldn't they put you in solitary confinement, which is you staying alone 24/7 with a small window of exercise, say maybe an hour long and a chance to take a shower every now and then. That would be too much for me. I don't know if I would like that, unless a television and cable were with me.

Yep. You can exercise in your cell, it'd be a bit cramped but you still have some space to move around. You'd only have to interact with other people for about an hour a day if even that. You would be able to get a TV in there. I've seen a good few documentaries about US prisons and the guys in 24 hour lockdown in maximum security prisons always have TV's in their cells. Thats all they really have though. You could probably get the guards to bring you stuff like books from time to time too.

I've seen documentaries without televisions in cells and prisoners suffering horrific side effects from such a solitary lifestyle. That much isolation is not healthy.
The prisoners might be able to fill out a form and order books from the prison library. Not sure how that works, but they can get books. It would be really loud in there, keep that in mind. Inmates bang on stuff, get angry, kick stuff, hit stuff, shout, scream, yell, sing, talk loudly. You name it. So, you would have to listen to that. That alone would drive me crazy.



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15 Jun 2011, 10:51 am

I know what you mean I could do solitary time no problem if I had something to read or had a tv. But hearing that background noise would kill me especially all that banging. Its loud, constant, and unending its a reciepe for insanity.


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31 Dec 2014, 2:38 pm

I know this is an old thread but I just discovered it and had to comment. I have AS and just got done doing 2.5 in the Arizona prison system. I was not placed in PC and I am glad that I wasn't. The media puts out a really warped image of prison that is grossly exaggerated if not completely made up. In over 2 years I never saw or heard of anyone getting stabbed or raped, and the outright victimization and bullying you guys are all so afraid of really doesn't happen. And if you are having problems you can't fix on your own talking the leaders of your race will usually get them resolved. The whites anyway, have a pretty strong and enforced policy of stand-up-for-yourself-and-stand-up-for-those-who-can't-stand-up-for-themselves. In fact one of the only serious events I did see in there was the beating of an inmate who was taking advantage of the financial resources of a mildly ret*d guy.

As for some of the other statements I read on here:

Protective custody, PC, is pretty much for guys that snitched on co-defendants or snitched on people doing nefarious things inside the fences. Also guys that run up dope debts on the yard (drugs are surprisingly plentiful) and can't pay them often go and demand PC. Its pretty much looked at as getting yourself into a problem and then asking the police to fix it for you, and that is why those guys are so looked down on.

Sex criminals go to yards just for them, so at least in AZ you will never interact with one while doing time on a "normal" case.

Gays do go to general population and there are more of them than you would probably think. They are really not messed with, and no they are not all straight acting. A good portion of them are very flamboyant and some even appear to be women.

Also there are no computers on the yard. Well I had limited use of one because I had a job as a GED tutor but it had no games and no internet. You do get TV if you can get your family to send you some money so you can buy one and you only get about 15 channels.



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31 Dec 2014, 3:40 pm

I don't like anyone telling me what to do. I would most likely be killed in prison. I was in a Psych ward a few years ago and I did not do well. I yelled at a guy for answering the ward phone all the time. He answered a call from my mother and then hung up on her. I yelled at him and told him to go to his room. My roommate was too loud, Prison? I would not survive.


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31 Dec 2014, 4:22 pm

Thanks, George.

I enjoy reading things from the "horse's mouth." Unless you've actually experienced something, one could only speculate.

Have you ever been in the Maricopa County Jail, which that sheriff guy runs?



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31 Dec 2014, 6:03 pm

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Thanks, George.

I enjoy reading things from the "horse's mouth." Unless you've actually experienced something, one could only speculate.

Have you ever been in the Maricopa County Jail, which that sheriff guy runs?


No I have never been to Maricopa County Jail, but I have been to Pima County Jail. You are thinking of Sheriff Joe Arpaio who despite his tough stance on everything still has high crime rates and high recidivism rates. Personally I think he is a blowhard who just likes to see himself on TV. Inmates are housed in tents in part of the state prison at Florence, AZ and unfortunately I did spend some cold winter nights and some hot summer days there.



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31 Dec 2014, 6:10 pm

I agree with you about that sheriff.



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16 Jan 2015, 10:53 am

I was in juvie, and I did ok. Thank goodness I've never been to prison.

I think I could do ok if 1)if I have a cool cellie or 2)I can spend most of my time alone.

I have some pen pals in prison. Fighting in prison isn't that uncommon depending on where you are. If you're in min, no one wants to fight because many are at the end of the prison sentence. However, i do have a pen pal in the hole right now for fighting. I have another pen pal (dr) who killed another inmate. I have another pen pal who tried to hurt another inmate with homemade knife (toothbrush with razors stuck in it). One pen pals friend is in the hole for beating up a guy really bad. This pen pal (in AR) has seen people get teeth knocked out, get turned out, get an eyeball punched out (ouch).

One pen pal described prison as boring most of the time. This one is in Diboll. They have flat screen Tvs there. He's getting shipped to medium security facility because he's been in the hole a lot.

Pen pal at Ar says there are a lot of penalties for assaulting child molesters. They have become a protected class. He said one of the chomos sexually harassed him (he's young looking in his early 20s).

I'd recommend being on your best behavior if you go to prison. There are many bennies to being in a min security facility:
more phone and email privileges
more fun activities, like community service, seeing classic cars, playing xbox, flat screen tvs, taking showers when you want as opposed to once or twice a week, the list goes on

You definitely want pen pals. Not every pen pall will send you money, but think about this. When you are in prison, you friends and family will give you less and less attention. A pen pal can do little things like send you books, birthday cards, letters, print things off the internet for you (one of my pps likes for me to send his pics of houses for example), and generally be uplifting and encouraging.



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18 Jan 2015, 6:09 pm

I'm fine with being around other prisoners in jail, I rather make friends for protection instead of being on my own. I'm just scared of being shanked.



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30 Jul 2017, 9:04 am

To me, the definition of prison is much broader that incarceration in an institution for law breakers. It is confinement to any punitive environment. To take an analogy from my physics notes in school, the prison the judge sentences you to is analogous to the definition of momentum as mass times velocity. But a more comprehensive definition makes momentum equal to negative the square root of negative one times Plank's constant divided by 2 pi and all this multiplied by the three dimensional gradient of the Schrodinger wave function, which includes momentum without mass, such as the momentum of electromagnetic waves. Mass-less momentum is analogous to those forms of prison that are not made up of bars, walls, guard towers, and the violence that is programmed into our prison system. It includes ghettos, trailer parks, section 8 housing, homelessness on the street, any inescapable punitive environment. For me, American culture is a punitive environment. I can't stand and I can't live in or co-exist with that culture: its ugly dehumanizing pop music that condescendingly redefines you as at best a simulacrum whose brain it too primitive for anything more than a kindergarten nursery rhyme linear disco drum beat, songs sung in baby talk slang about romantic love, and limited to a 2 to 3 minute attention span delivered by cult leaders who sing to us how we are required to live, sports, that are designed to separate the world into winners and losers for no other purpose than to exalt the winners solely through the public humiliation of the losers, that "Joe-Fart-Gas-Suburbia" style of residential architecture that bedizens houses and apartment buildings with function-less structural brimbroions that do nothing but masturbate the optic nerve in an unsuccessful attempt to emulate elegance that makes the most expensive mansions look like slums, the dialect of language of deblatterations, the food, which is designed to install a beer belly in everyone's body so that your own body becomes a vehicle for the worst kind of squalor; which, I can't eat because I developed celiac disease and I am thankful that commercial American food puts me in the hospital with life-threatening dehydration, such "literature" as National Enquirer and television soap operas, game shows, and the likes of Brady Bunch, American Idol, and Love Boat. That culture is a world that can never offer me a life worth living. To get away from it I created my own environment where I can discriminate and allow only those forms of culture that treat us as human beings complete with Kantian human dignity and where I have the kind of control over my own body where I can choose only foods that protect me from obesity and sarcopenia, in short, a life outside the prison of commercial junk culture and all its manufactured squalor.
If I were to be deprived of my controlled environment that makes it worth it for me to want to be alive I would fight to my death before I would be taken to any prison, especially a prison from which I can never return. If I were charged with a crime I would do everything I could to either be allowed to go free or provoke the death penalty because I know that I would not survive in prison anyway and I would not want to. In court I would say whatever I am not allowed to say because what the judge would do about it would be irrelevant since I have nothing to lose. I would never negotiate because the system is unconditionally my enemy and any negotiation is designed to inflict ad much destruction upon me as possible. If I were to be taken to a nursing home for any reason I would accept that a nursing home is just as violent a death row as the kind prisons put murderers in and I would do whatever it takes to prevent being taken alive from my home to a nursing home. If I got taken alive into a such section 8 housing as a trailer park or an apartment full of American pop/rock shitmusic and cigarette smoke I would be as violent and destructive as possible till they would have to grant me my desire to be euthanized.
I refuse to flatter myself by pretending that I would be strong enough to behave like a human being if my humanity were taken away from me and that is why I can never compromise with the manifold forms of prison society has to offer.



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30 Jul 2017, 8:58 pm

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I'm a corrections officer for new York state, so I'll put in my 2 cents. Every new inmate is assessed psychologically to determine what facility and program would best suit his or her needs. If a new inmate is considered mentally unfit for general population then he's sent to a facility that has a separate section for those types. I haven't yet run into an HFA inmate, but more often than not they'd be put into general population, in which case you're definitely NOT guaranteed a single cell. My advice to the newly incarcerated aspie who's afraid of interacting with other prisoners or his cellmate would be to ask for PC (protective custody). The officers will probably call you a p**** and b***h about the extra work, but you'll get your own cell and a lot of solitude.

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thank you very much for answering.

that's New York state. what are the protocols in California, where i live?

b/c if i got sent to jail or prison, then i would be afraid of getting raped.

furthermore, i am trans.

about 10 years ago, at a support group, a male to female transsexual said that she got sent to jail and lived with the men.

but that was 10 years ago and many advances in LGBT rights have occurred since then.

so do trans inmates go with men or women?

especially about the autism thing. and got diagnosed with six (out of 10) personality disorder. seriously if someone was looking for someone to victimize i would be an easy target.

furthermore, i am chronically exhausted. and under 110 pounds.

:lol: may i please get a single cell? :wink: