Why do people dislike Aspies?
Some people hear the word 'Aspie' or "Aspergers" and depending on what they know about it, they either love us or hate us. It could just be the label they are reacting to, not the person. Few seem to really understand what makes a person popular. A really obnoxious person can be very popular as long as they don't completely screw over the wrong people. They can be obnoxious as hell and still have many admireres. I've seen it. Whether they have an ASD or not, I couldn't tell you, but one thing they didn't do was tell people they had one.
This is where I don't believe in the trait ''Aspies lack understanding of putting themselves in other people's shoes'', because NTs are exactly the same with us. We find it hard to put ourselves in NT's shoes, just as much as NTs find it hard to put theirselves in Aspie's shoes.
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I've getting f***ing pissed off being treated like a ret*d. See, this is why I hate Autism.
f**k Autism.
Being a teenager isn't exactly good for your PR either. I think most people are afraid of me as well. I mostly get scowls and am treated rudely. There's on exception to this, though: when I'm with my disabled friend (very clearly disabled, too, the full wheelchair works), basically everyone says "hi" to me or smiles.
It's preposterous.
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"Be slow to fall into friendship; but when thou art in, continue firm and constant. " -Socrates
AQ: 40/50
EQ: 17/50
SQ: 72/80 (Extreme Synthesiser)
Aspie test: about 150/200 Aspie, about 40/200 NT
It's gonna be a long bumpy road and the majority of people are NOT going to like you. Even if I'm quiet, but extremely kind and giving people hated me. It's a lose/lose situation.
That may be your opinion, but i would at least like it if people didn't find me so annoying and all. My motives are not very relevant, i was just asking for yourexperiences.
I am measured as a moderately severe (socially speaking) case of Autistic person. Yet people tend to like me and many even love me.
For me, the secret is to always seek the WIN/WIN in every situation. If you live your life in service to the WIN in other peoples lives you will find the WIN in your own life.
That was very simplistic but just pointing out that being Autistic and being disliked are actually 2 different things and are orthogonal IMHO.
One thing I believe people don't like about me is that I like to share information. That's really all communication is about for me: uploading and downloading information. It can be info on anything, including feeling states. But I've watched NTs talk and they really are not bothered about the accuracy of what they are saying. I have seen an NT person who I know knows a certain fact, say something contrary to that fact when talking to another NT. Their communication is about...??? I'm not really sure, but transmitting accurate factual information is not that important. So when I present information, I think I come across as some kind of arrogant know-it-all. And I definitely do not know even one millionth of it all, but what I do know I like to share because it might be useful to the other person and that's how I share myself. But some NTs don't seem to appreciate this.
It's not that people dislike them, but rather, they become uncomfortable with their behaviours to the degree that they will avoid the person. People respond well to situations and behaviour that is very consistent with social norms. When someone is inconsistent from the way people normally behave, their reaction is one of unease and apprehension. They often don't know how to respond when someone is like this. People often become afraid of what they don't understand, and instead of learning about why the person behaves that way, they will jump to conclusions and assume that the person is acting this way on purpose or being belligerent, tactless or rude.
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Given a “tentative” diagnosis as a child as I needed services at school for what was later correctly discovered to be a major anxiety disorder.
This misdiagnosis caused me significant stress, which lessened upon finding out the truth about myself from my current and past long-term therapists - that I am an anxious and highly sensitive person but do not have an autism spectrum disorder.
My diagnoses - social anxiety disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder.
I’m no longer involved with the ASD world.
Things people bring up that they dislike about me:
-Monologues. I do this with a lot of things. Mass Effect, guns, cars, AS, Stargate and Star Trek just to name the big hitters.
-Word-usage. I correct people on their word usage all the time, apparently.
-Rocking/twitching/stimming. This apparently makes people uncomfortable. I don't care, though, because I'm not doing it for their benefit, and a lot of the time, I don't even realize I'm doing it.
-"Well actually". A new saying amongst the group I take company with is that one should "never fight an aspie on his obsession, for you will lose." According to a few people, a large but unspecified amount of my sentences start with "Well actually".
I agree. The NTs I know all lack empathy in any depth. They are good at empathizing quickly and in a shallow way with a lot of people, but don't think it through. I think aspies are more empathetic in depth, we feel everything about a person, and that's why we get overloaded. Or feel awkward like we are looking into their soul. Hence avoiding eye contact.
Ironically I think a lot of people don't know how they feel themselves. I have seen conversations where NTs just say the first thing that comes into their head and move on. That's how they can cope so much better with social situations: they don't think about it, they just react. They don't analyze. Maybe they do sometimes, but not normally. I'm always analyzng everything and that's why I can't keep up.
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I think we're hated mostly because we act differently. It doesn't help us to have our facial expressions, hand gestures, and movements in general seem weird to others.
Weird, people keep smiling at me, and I don't know why.
Happens to me too. I lost lots of friends for reasons I still don't know. One person on my robotics team said that I acted like I was "better than them," even though I felt exactly the opposite. I was jealous of their ability to be able to help on the robot without asking. People automatically know they want to help. But I don't know how to ask how I can help. Another person said that she thought I was ignoring her, and I realized that it might be because of my lack of eye contact. Ever since I've found out about AS, I've been working on eye contact. Before that, I didn't realize its importance.
But it did help to have eyelids as a (minor) special interest once. Sometimes I look at someone's eyelids out of habit to see what they look like, and they think I'm making eye contact. :P
They dislike us because our behavior gives them "weird thoughts" or "uncomfortable thoughts" because the way we think, speak, act, groom ourselves doesn't confirm to the NT world. In order to be accepted by NT society, we must all be actors trying to fake NT in order to avoid soliciting "uncomfortable thoughts" from the NT population. It sucks but its reality.
I think people don't like me because:
I have stopped doing things for them
It just seems like too much BS to do much of the idiotic socializing/gossiping thing
When people say something that is really wrong, I react, even if I don't say anything, it shows on my face
I care more about being an individual than one of the pack (IMO the biggest thing about me that bugs people)
I have always been really curious and interested in learning, so go in depth about things that many others just learn enough of to get by
(like cooking, maps, collecting all kinds of things, music etc etc)
The biggest reason is there aren't many people I meet that I like!! !! ! I keep realizing just how much of an effort I have to put in to stand being around most people (all people really) and that I resent putting all that effort into something I don't care that much about just because I was trying to get along.
Maybe, someday (I doubt it though) I will meet people who don't seem petty, gossipy, whiny, looking to see what they can get, more interested in feeding their own egos etc
Dang I am pissy aren't I?!?
That is a good way of putting it. When I see the ease with which jerks make money and get friends, and the difficulty I have despite offering complete devotion and visionary ideas, I can only conclude that being different makes people uncomfortable. You see it in their body language, their words, their lack of words - there is no connection there.
People prefer people like themselves.
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