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10 Aug 2011, 11:03 am

Some people hear the word 'Aspie' or "Aspergers" and depending on what they know about it, they either love us or hate us. It could just be the label they are reacting to, not the person. Few seem to really understand what makes a person popular. A really obnoxious person can be very popular as long as they don't completely screw over the wrong people. They can be obnoxious as hell and still have many admireres. I've seen it. Whether they have an ASD or not, I couldn't tell you, but one thing they didn't do was tell people they had one.



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10 Aug 2011, 11:06 am

This is where I don't believe in the trait ''Aspies lack understanding of putting themselves in other people's shoes'', because NTs are exactly the same with us. We find it hard to put ourselves in NT's shoes, just as much as NTs find it hard to put theirselves in Aspie's shoes.


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10 Aug 2011, 11:52 am

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I don't know if I'm disliked, because I have said to be a very likeable person by different people. It's strangers who seem to think I have no feelings, judging by the word ''idiot'' written across my forehead in bold red letters, and not even the thickest mask can cover it up (metaphorically speaking). I am a 21-year-old, and because I look younger than my age, I look like a teenage youth to other people who don't know me, and usually these days people are afraid to speak to or look at youths who don't know them (I've heard some awful stories about teenagers abusing people who were just trying to politely ask them to do something), but I get stared at and asked to do things all the time, so I can't look that youthful. So that means people don't respect me. Like when I'm on the bus, I get turfed out my seat by older people when it gets too crowded, but they don't ask any other young person to get up. So that's obvious that just because I look like a complete ret*d, people can think I have no feelings or thoughts. ''Oh, just get that big ugly girl to stand up - she wouldn't care being turfed out of her seats....even though she's looking nice and relaxed and settled there.''

I've getting f***ing pissed off being treated like a ret*d. See, this is why I hate Autism.

f**k Autism.


Being a teenager isn't exactly good for your PR either. I think most people are afraid of me as well. I mostly get scowls and am treated rudely. There's on exception to this, though: when I'm with my disabled friend (very clearly disabled, too, the full wheelchair works), basically everyone says "hi" to me or smiles.

It's preposterous.


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10 Aug 2011, 12:50 pm

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What? I'm awesome. Not my problem if some people don't like me. I'm not changing for anyone. And honestly, you shouldn't either.

It's gonna be a long bumpy road and the majority of people are NOT going to like you. Even if I'm quiet, but extremely kind and giving people hated me. It's a lose/lose situation.


That may be your opinion, but i would at least like it if people didn't find me so annoying and all. My motives are not very relevant, i was just asking for yourexperiences.


I am measured as a moderately severe (socially speaking) case of Autistic person. Yet people tend to like me and many even love me.

For me, the secret is to always seek the WIN/WIN in every situation. If you live your life in service to the WIN in other peoples lives you will find the WIN in your own life.

That was very simplistic but just pointing out that being Autistic and being disliked are actually 2 different things and are orthogonal IMHO.



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10 Aug 2011, 12:53 pm

Because I'm weird, boring and don't talk at all. Heck I don't know if I'm liked at all on here because of my extreme behaviors.



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10 Aug 2011, 1:13 pm

One thing I believe people don't like about me is that I like to share information. That's really all communication is about for me: uploading and downloading information. It can be info on anything, including feeling states. But I've watched NTs talk and they really are not bothered about the accuracy of what they are saying. I have seen an NT person who I know knows a certain fact, say something contrary to that fact when talking to another NT. Their communication is about...??? I'm not really sure, but transmitting accurate factual information is not that important. So when I present information, I think I come across as some kind of arrogant know-it-all. And I definitely do not know even one millionth of it all, but what I do know I like to share because it might be useful to the other person and that's how I share myself. But some NTs don't seem to appreciate this.



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10 Aug 2011, 2:58 pm

I noticed that Aspies are judged wrongly alot of times. People meet the Aspie, and then after a few minutes conclude all kinds of untrue things.



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10 Aug 2011, 3:39 pm

It's not that people dislike them, but rather, they become uncomfortable with their behaviours to the degree that they will avoid the person. People respond well to situations and behaviour that is very consistent with social norms. When someone is inconsistent from the way people normally behave, their reaction is one of unease and apprehension. They often don't know how to respond when someone is like this. People often become afraid of what they don't understand, and instead of learning about why the person behaves that way, they will jump to conclusions and assume that the person is acting this way on purpose or being belligerent, tactless or rude.


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10 Aug 2011, 3:48 pm

Things people bring up that they dislike about me:

-Monologues. I do this with a lot of things. Mass Effect, guns, cars, AS, Stargate and Star Trek just to name the big hitters.
-Word-usage. I correct people on their word usage all the time, apparently.
-Rocking/twitching/stimming. This apparently makes people uncomfortable. I don't care, though, because I'm not doing it for their benefit, and a lot of the time, I don't even realize I'm doing it.
-"Well actually". A new saying amongst the group I take company with is that one should "never fight an aspie on his obsession, for you will lose." According to a few people, a large but unspecified amount of my sentences start with "Well actually".



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10 Aug 2011, 7:48 pm

Where I live I do not see people not liking those of us with Asperger's anymore than certain people not liking anyone else.


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10 Aug 2011, 7:58 pm

Joe90 wrote:
This is where I don't believe in the trait ''Aspies lack understanding of putting themselves in other people's shoes'', because NTs are exactly the same with us. We find it hard to put ourselves in NT's shoes, just as much as NTs find it hard to put theirselves in Aspie's shoes.

I agree. The NTs I know all lack empathy in any depth. They are good at empathizing quickly and in a shallow way with a lot of people, but don't think it through. I think aspies are more empathetic in depth, we feel everything about a person, and that's why we get overloaded. Or feel awkward like we are looking into their soul. Hence avoiding eye contact.

Ironically I think a lot of people don't know how they feel themselves. I have seen conversations where NTs just say the first thing that comes into their head and move on. That's how they can cope so much better with social situations: they don't think about it, they just react. They don't analyze. Maybe they do sometimes, but not normally. I'm always analyzng everything and that's why I can't keep up.



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10 Aug 2011, 8:11 pm

I think we're hated mostly because we act differently. It doesn't help us to have our facial expressions, hand gestures, and movements in general seem weird to others.


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Being a teenager isn't exactly good for your PR either. I think most people are afraid of me as well. I mostly get scowls and am treated rudely.

Weird, people keep smiling at me, and I don't know why.


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I noticed that Aspies are judged wrongly alot of times. People meet the Aspie, and then after a few minutes conclude all kinds of untrue things.

Happens to me too. I lost lots of friends for reasons I still don't know. One person on my robotics team said that I acted like I was "better than them," even though I felt exactly the opposite. I was jealous of their ability to be able to help on the robot without asking. People automatically know they want to help. But I don't know how to ask how I can help. Another person said that she thought I was ignoring her, and I realized that it might be because of my lack of eye contact. Ever since I've found out about AS, I've been working on eye contact. Before that, I didn't realize its importance.
But it did help to have eyelids as a (minor) special interest once. Sometimes I look at someone's eyelids out of habit to see what they look like, and they think I'm making eye contact. :P



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10 Aug 2011, 9:02 pm

They dislike us because our behavior gives them "weird thoughts" or "uncomfortable thoughts" because the way we think, speak, act, groom ourselves doesn't confirm to the NT world. In order to be accepted by NT society, we must all be actors trying to fake NT in order to avoid soliciting "uncomfortable thoughts" from the NT population. It sucks but its reality.



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10 Aug 2011, 10:37 pm

The NT population can give off scary vibes.



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10 Aug 2011, 11:19 pm

I think people don't like me because:
I have stopped doing things for them
It just seems like too much BS to do much of the idiotic socializing/gossiping thing
When people say something that is really wrong, I react, even if I don't say anything, it shows on my face
I care more about being an individual than one of the pack (IMO the biggest thing about me that bugs people)
I have always been really curious and interested in learning, so go in depth about things that many others just learn enough of to get by
(like cooking, maps, collecting all kinds of things, music etc etc)

The biggest reason is there aren't many people I meet that I like!! !! ! I keep realizing just how much of an effort I have to put in to stand being around most people (all people really) and that I resent putting all that effort into something I don't care that much about just because I was trying to get along.

Maybe, someday (I doubt it though) I will meet people who don't seem petty, gossipy, whiny, looking to see what they can get, more interested in feeding their own egos etc

Dang I am pissy aren't I?!?



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11 Aug 2011, 4:08 am

AllieKat wrote:
They dislike us because our behavior gives them "weird thoughts" or "uncomfortable thoughts" because the way we think, speak, act, groom ourselves doesn't confirm to the NT world. In order to be accepted by NT society, we must all be actors trying to fake NT in order to avoid soliciting "uncomfortable thoughts" from the NT population. It sucks but its reality.

That is a good way of putting it. When I see the ease with which jerks make money and get friends, and the difficulty I have despite offering complete devotion and visionary ideas, I can only conclude that being different makes people uncomfortable. You see it in their body language, their words, their lack of words - there is no connection there.

People prefer people like themselves.