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11 Aug 2011, 9:27 pm

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I'm very much an alexithymic person, but that doesn't mean I don't know what my favorite color is. I have issues with "favorites" in which I don't have a defined answer, but in those I do its easy. In my case for color its yellow. Because that's something factual I'm sure of, it doesn't have anything to do with my current emotional state. Favorite food on the other hand I'd be thrown off the cliff for. ;)


*Laughs* - FYI your current emotional state is a fact - It's only social custom that can attach it to particular words and the agreed concepts that go with them.



And Alexithymia is not not having any idea what your emotions are, its not knowing what words or how to explain it. I don't /always/ know my emotional state, but often I have concepts that aren't translatable into words - I don't think verbally, I think in generic concepts that are not the same as the customary concepts that don't have words always associated with them.



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12 Aug 2011, 1:18 am

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Perhaps I do. See, I keep gaining weight. Now, I'm not huge, but I weigh more than I feel good weighing, and I just keep gaining. I basically eat rice and vegetables (GFCFSF, low sugar, no dyes, no HFCS), and not a lot of those, and I still gain. I exercise; I swim, I walk... I gain.

And the doctors? They just say, "Eat less. Exercise more."

And when I listened to them over and over, I was eating 100 calories a day and running 15 miles a day, and ended up hospitalized three times. It's true. But still, I was "overweight."

If one more doctor tells me, "You're fine. Fat, but fine," I think I'll totally lose it on whomever that doctor dares to be.

So, yes, maybe I do understand your frustration.

That said, why not take strategies that help people with autism and use them?

Why not be satisfied to identify with being on the broader autism phenotype? Affected, but not diagnosably so.


Hmmm I never thought of it that way.....im really stuck on the whole aspie offical label thing, for about a year now its all i have been thinking about.... is that proof of aspergers? see i get locked into this obsession of if im an aspie or not...

its confusing



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12 Aug 2011, 5:27 am

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Also, I do not necessarily feel disconnected. Sometimes I feel TOO connected, actually, to the point of overwhelming.


Well I always remember when I feel this that my brain has a diminished ability to handle connections



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12 Aug 2011, 9:50 am

You absolutely cannot, in any way, PROVE Asperger's. You can't. It's a disorder based on behavior, which is an imprecise measure. You can't test for it, and you can't see it.

The closest you can come is to go through each of the diagnostic criteria and describe how it relates to you. Then explain how you are clinically significantly impaired by them. Take that to a doctor.



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12 Aug 2011, 9:59 am

Panic. Maybe if you gave an example of the answer YOU would put, we'd understand what you want as a response for the question. As it is... It's still unclear to all of us. That implies a failing in the original wording of the question, not likely one in the general population of the board (occam's razor).

With an answer to the proposed question, maybe we can work backwards and understand what you are asking for: screaming "WRONG!" doesn't clarify too much.



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12 Aug 2011, 10:03 am

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What is the autism state of mind explained verbally? Explain your own personal state of mind, if you are on the spectrum.

Metaphorically speaking...

I'm outside a glassed-in environment where everybody else is inside having a party. I can not find a way in, and all my attempts to break through the wall are both exhausting and painful. Now and then, people inside will notice me and motion for me to come in, but when I indicate that I don't know how, they turn away with an angry or contemptuous look on their faces. No one wants to show me the way in, and most seem reluctant to even acknowledge my presence.

Out here, I've made a fairly comfortable environment for myself. I have my TV, my computer, my games, and my wife, who tries to understand; she's the only one willing to "come outside" and be with me, but even she gets impatient and goes "back inside" to be with her friends. Her attempts to show me the way in have been frustrating to the both of us, yet we still love each other in spite of our differences - maybe we just got good at pretending that our differences have more to do with our different cultures (she's Asian, and I'm Euro-American) than with anything else.

Does that all make sense?



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12 Aug 2011, 10:15 am

Should do; ofc as I'm sure you know, there's no way in



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12 Aug 2011, 10:24 am

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Should do; ofc as I'm sure you know, there's no way in

There is, but I'm not that good at acting, and eventually someone will always see through my disguise.

... again, metaphorically speaking...



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12 Aug 2011, 10:43 am

Surely you're not 'in' as such when in your 'disguise', tho not exactly 'out' either.



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12 Aug 2011, 10:44 am

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Surely you're not 'in' as such when in your 'disguise', tho not exactly 'out' either.

Correct.

And stop calling me Shirley.

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