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25 Sep 2011, 8:10 am

If the complainer is seeking advice and actually considers applying some of it, then I'll pitch in and try to help.

But if the complaint is made merely to express emotions, then it seems pointless - especially when it's the same people with the same complaints time and time again. After a few days and as many new threads on the same topics by the same people, and after they've rejected all reasonable solutions to their problems, I have to wonder if their complaints are really no more than a bid for attention - a sort of "Reverse Trolling".

Instead of "You're all stoopid! BUHUWAWAWAWAH!", it's "I'm so stoopid, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"; the person still gets attention, but they don't get banned.

Does anyone else see what I mean? It's like two sides of the same coin.



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25 Sep 2011, 8:19 am

^^^
some folk are so overwhelmed by their troubles that they just can't see any sense anywhere. they are like infants who can't articulate what's troubling them so they just wail out of sheer existential pain. i want my chill pill. medicate me.



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25 Sep 2011, 8:20 am

Expressing emotions can be therapeutic simply on it's own.

I agree that if they get some good advice they should try it out, but whether they view it as good advice or whether it's as easy to implement as it sounds is hard to say.



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25 Sep 2011, 9:55 am

auntblabby wrote:
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some folk are so overwhelmed by their troubles that they just can't see any sense anywhere. they are like infants who can't articulate what's troubling them so they just wail out of sheer existential pain. i want my chill pill. medicate me.


Agreed. and as I said before maybe not in this thread but people who don't like the Haven should maybe stay out of it and quit trying to give people who post there a hard time...sorry things overwhelm me so much its hard to process it without getting it out in writing and maybe getting a little bit of advice. Lol maybe they should just get rid of that forum because some people feel it is innappropriate to express emotions in a forum for it.



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25 Sep 2011, 10:42 am

What bothers me worse than complainers is people who never tell you what's bothering them, and act all grumpy anyway. They expect you to read their mind about what's upsetting them. :x

'What's wrong?'
'You KNOW what's wrong'.
'Err, actually I don't'.
' :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x :x :x ! !! !! !! YES YOU DO!'


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25 Sep 2011, 11:50 am

Complainers don't bother me if they have something valid to complain about and they usually do. It's the naggers that just want to nag at you and who are constantly negative about everything all the time. Nothing you do is ever right or good enough for them, they feel they have to constantly criticize you and everything about you. They drain me mentally, emotionally and physically. I cannot be around them for any length of time because they stress me out and make me ill. My first husband was like that and I don't regret not having to live with him and all of that, for one moment. Unfortunately our daughter has adopted his negative nagging ways. So she's difficult to live with and to be around for anything length of time too.


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25 Sep 2011, 11:52 am

Taupey wrote:
Complainers don't bother me if they have something valid to complain about and they usually do. It's the naggers that just want to nag at you and who are constantly negative about everything all the time. Nothing you do is ever right or good enough for them, they feel they have to constantly criticize you and everything about you. They drain me mentally, emotionally and physically. I cannot be around them for any length of time because they stress me out and make me ill. My first husband was like that and I don't regret not having to live with him and all of that, for one moment. Unfortunately our daughter has adopted his negative nagging ways. So she's difficult to live with and to be around for anything length of time too.


I complain about people like that.



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25 Sep 2011, 11:58 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Taupey wrote:
Complainers don't bother me if they have something valid to complain about and they usually do. It's the naggers that just want to nag at you and who are constantly negative about everything all the time. Nothing you do is ever right or good enough for them, they feel they have to constantly criticize you and everything about you. They drain me mentally, emotionally and physically. I cannot be around them for any length of time because they stress me out and make me ill. My first husband was like that and I don't regret not having to live with him and all of that, for one moment. Unfortunately our daughter has adopted his negative nagging ways. So she's difficult to live with and to be around for anything length of time too.


I complain about people like that.
lol :D Just like me.


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25 Sep 2011, 12:03 pm

Surfman wrote:
Dont go to the UK


So I have heard from others who live there. (Did it really change that much since 1980, or was I just lucky then?)

As for complaining, unfortunately people often conflate constructive criticism or even polite suggestions about how to improve something with complaining uselessly and whining. They aren't the same at all.

As for Mr. Paperwork Complainer, since he seems otherwise unknown to you, perhaps he was just blowing off steam. I may not like it much, but I've come to accept that people do that sometimes, so it doesn't bother me so much as it used to.

If I see someone enough to know it's an everyday occurrence with them, I tend to spend my time elsewhere.



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25 Sep 2011, 12:23 pm

EmiliaL wrote:
Surfman wrote:
Dont go to the UK


So I have heard from others who live there. (Did it really change that much since 1980, or was I just lucky then?)

We complain about many things, but we also put up with many things that people of other nationalities seem to find surprising. We're good at queueing, for example.

The weather is a good example of something people like to complain about, so much so that the Beatles wrote a song about people complaining about the weather:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPjDMZiuhbQ[/youtube]



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25 Sep 2011, 2:37 pm

Last winter, we had a really heavy fall of snow, unexpectedly. We had a major traffic chaos and many people had to walk home from work. Things were almost at a standstill for several days. Anyway, my husband and went out into our cul-de-sac and started to clear the compacted snow into piles. Any of the neighbours who weren't at work came out to help. There was a real community spirit going on and I made tea for everyone. One of the neighbours came out and said, 'The council should be doing this, this is ridiculous'. I just thought, it's taken us a whole day to do this one little bit of road, how on earth could the council manage to make an impact. Some people. :roll: