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09 Oct 2011, 5:44 pm

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On this forum, it is a good idea not to read between the lines, because there is no information between the lines. All the information is on the lines themselves.

The message I'm reading between these lines is "NOT!".

I have no idea what this means.

Imagine this....

"On this forum, it is a good idea not to read between the lines, because there is no information between the lines. All the information is on the lines themselves."

...

"NOT!"

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09 Oct 2011, 5:59 pm

swbluto wrote:

btbnnyr wrote:

swbluto wrote:

btbnnyr wrote:

On this forum, it is a good idea not to read between the lines, because there is no information between the lines. All the information is on the lines themselves.

The message I'm reading between these lines is "NOT!".

I have no idea what this means.

Imagine this....

"On this forum, it is a good idea not to read between the lines, because there is no information between the lines. All the information is on the lines themselves."

...

"NOT!"

What is this, 1990?

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09 Oct 2011, 6:07 pm

btbnnyr's original comment didn't sound like sarcasm to me...

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09 Oct 2011, 6:17 pm

Ellytoad wrote:

btbnnyr's original comment didn't sound like sarcasm to me...

Me neither, lol. (Hint: The "NOT!" post was me disagreeing with her.)

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09 Oct 2011, 6:20 pm

Verdandi wrote:

swbluto wrote:

btbnnyr wrote:

swbluto wrote:

btbnnyr wrote:

On this forum, it is a good idea not to read between the lines, because there is no information between the lines. All the information is on the lines themselves.

The message I'm reading between these lines is "NOT!".

I have no idea what this means.

Imagine this....

"On this forum, it is a good idea not to read between the lines, because there is no information between the lines. All the information is on the lines themselves."

...

"NOT!"

What is this, 1990?

I'm thinking more like 2006.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tR91q59gFo[/youtube]

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09 Oct 2011, 6:27 pm

Okay, so Sascha Baron-Cohen brought it back for 2006, but it was actually a thing in the early 90s.

Also, btbnnyr is right, there's not a lot of subtext here, although one can easily generate a lot of friction by insisting it's present.

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09 Oct 2011, 6:52 pm

Verdandi wrote:

Also, btbnnyr is right, there's not a lot of subtext here, although one can easily generate a lot of friction by insisting it's present.

lolol. I love this statement's irony.

"there's not a lot of subtext here, although one can easily generate a lot of friction by insisting it's present."

= "there's not a lot of subtext here and you're rocking the boat by disagreeing".

And you were saying? :lol:

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09 Oct 2011, 6:56 pm

swbluto wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

Also, btbnnyr is right, there's not a lot of subtext here, although one can easily generate a lot of friction by insisting it's present.

Telling us that we're saying things that we aren't saying is a reasonable reason for there to be friction... its much more "There's not a lot of subtext here and saying that we're using subtext and making claims about what the subtext is can be insulting, as its saying that we're saying things which we aren't saying".

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09 Oct 2011, 6:57 pm

swbluto wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

Also, btbnnyr is right, there's not a lot of subtext here, although one can easily generate a lot of friction by insisting it's present.

No, that's not what I said. If I rephrased it:

"You can generate a lot of friction by telling people they're really saying something other than what they are in fact saying." You're reading into my statement things that aren't there. The irony is entirely your perception.

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09 Oct 2011, 7:09 pm

Verdandi wrote:

swbluto wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

Also, btbnnyr is right, there's not a lot of subtext here, although one can easily generate a lot of friction by insisting it's present.

lol, if my previous post just generated friction in the exact same way as the way you described that would generate friction, then THAT'd be... funny. Anyways, I'm pretty sure there's subtext around here somewhere...

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09 Oct 2011, 7:18 pm

swbluto wrote:

I said "There's not a lot of subtext here." I didn't say it was non-existent. I am not sure which post you mean.

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09 Oct 2011, 7:21 pm

Verdandi wrote:

swbluto wrote:

I said "There's not a lot of subtext here." I didn't say it was non-existent. I am not sure which post you mean.

by "previous post", I meant, "The previous post to this post".

It'd be the post previous to the previous post... of this post.

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09 Oct 2011, 7:29 pm

Here's an example. This happened elsewhere, in private messages and chat:

Someone made a post to this other forum saying that we need to hold targets of bullying responsible for provoking bullies. I disagreed and said that it is victim-blaming to hold targets of violence responsible for inciting that violence. I actually got pretty upset about this statement.

I was in chat at the same time, and a couple of people started arguing with me, and I said "I can't discuss this right now, I'm not in the right frame of mind to do so." And they kept pushing it, and I said something pretty harsh about dropping the subject.

I later sent a PM to one of the people involved to apologize to her if I had been rude (I wasn't sure if I had been, but it seemed possible). I didn't bother with the other because he's a manipulative jerk.

The response I received to my apology was completely irrelevant. I don't remember what it was now (and oh how I wish I did), but I clarified "I just meant ... "I am sorry." so this goes back and forth with increasingly elaborate interpretations of what I was trying to say, ending with "I'm not your superior, you don't have to explain yourself to me." Later, I was told that trying to clarify that "No, I really meant this," was actually me being manipulative. I primarily recall being intensely frustrated and confused by the entire exchange.

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09 Oct 2011, 8:07 pm

Most of my communications, online or offline, go awry when others read between the lines of what I say to them or when I do not read between the lines of what others say to me.

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09 Oct 2011, 9:02 pm

btbnnyr wrote:

On this forum, it is a good idea not to read between the lines, because there is no information between the lines. All the information is on the lines themselves. The only time that I wanted anyone to read between the lines was on the parents' forum, when some parents complained about the verbal stimming of their autistic children and wanted to make a deal with their children to control the verbal stimming so they the parents could have some peace and quiet, and I suggested that they the parents get some earplugs to block out the noise if the noise bothered them, and also to read between the lines of my suggestion, but I don't know if they the parents successfuly read between the lines to pick up on my hidden messages.

What was your hidden message?

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09 Oct 2011, 9:04 pm

btbnnyr wrote:

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Was the "between the lines" meaning basically "deal with it, it's not going to change"?

No, it wasn't that. I actually told them that it would probably stop by itself at some point, perhaps in a few months.

The thing with hidden messages is that they cannot be verbalized. Otherwise, they lose their GLIMMER. However, since I am not NT, I will verbalize the hidden message as, "Not so eezy breezy to be in your kids' shoes, is it? Maybe you shouldn't expect them to stop to make you more comfortable. Maybe you should just suck it up and do what they have to do to survive in your world, i.e. wear the earplugs."

That I don't agree with because mom used to tell me to stop all the time when I make sounds. So why should we get special privileges to annoy others?

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