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10 Oct 2011, 11:55 pm

Being unsentimental/unemotional or "hypermale". It seems this stereotype exists because we might not seem very emotionally receptive while socializing or interacting and appear lost in though or hyper-focused most of the time. In reality it seems I'm more easily emotionally moved by things than most people, male or female.



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11 Oct 2011, 12:13 am

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12. I don't create solipsistic neologisms.


What?



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11 Oct 2011, 12:46 am

I have many of the same as others mention. Since a kid I studied human behavior a lot so I have a pretty strong handle on human emotions, body language, humor/sarcasm. Not sure how much of it is natural or just from studying. I don't assume everything about my brain is tied to AS and assume I have some "natural" senses.

One that always stood out was I was a pretty strong athlete since I was young. It was a bit of an odd balance...literally. I had great reaction time, good hand-eye coordination and muscle memory. So I was a really good shooter in basketball. I could catch a baseball and football really well. I could stand at the net in tennis and return just about anything shot at me. What did fit with AS was that I had (and continue to have) horrible balance on my feet. I was the kid in gym class that couldn't walk across even the wide balance beam. People thought I was just messing around but I wasn't. In basketball I would score a lot, but I'd be falling down constantly.

The few folks I've told about AS since my official dx have been baffled b/c they've claimed "you can't have Aspergers. AS folk can't shoot a basketball and understand sarcasm. You can!"


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11 Oct 2011, 1:34 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
MoonMetropolis wrote:
12. I don't create solipsistic neologisms.


What?


Literally translated: "New" statements about the non-existence of other people because you don't believe other people exist/have feelings/etc. Basically it's an Aspie thing to "think the universe revolves around you" because you don't have NT empathy abilities, thus you can't take other's perspectives, resulting in you thinking you're the only person who exists. >.> This might have complicated matters.

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-Suck at math
-Use analogies/idioms/metaphors/etc to understand things. (literal language non-fail in other words)
-Have lots of imagination
-Pretending games were what my childhood consisted of
-Other stuff people have mentioned

Lol, it seems like there's a group of Aspies who have these similar qualities that seem to be contradictory to the diagnosis. There are 2 groups of Aspies*:
Those who can do math
Those who can't do math

Since I'm also ADHD, I have to wonder if the others who have similar characteristics have ADHD qualities or are diagnosed with it. But that could just be corellation and causation and all that good stuff, so if not, then one more wild theory for the trash.

*vague generality that does not necessarily represent actuality


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11 Oct 2011, 1:50 am

Fragmented wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
MoonMetropolis wrote:
12. I don't create solipsistic neologisms.


What?


Literally translated: "New" statements about the non-existence of other people because you don't believe other people exist/have feelings/etc. Basically it's an Aspie thing to "think the universe revolves around you" because you don't have NT empathy abilities, thus you can't take other's perspectives, resulting in you thinking you're the only person who exists. >.> This might have complicated matters.

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-Suck at math
-Use analogies/idioms/metaphors/etc to understand things. (literal language non-fail in other words)
-Have lots of imagination
-Pretending games were what my childhood consisted of
-Other stuff people have mentioned

Lol, it seems like there's a group of Aspies who have these similar qualities that seem to be contradictory to the diagnosis. There are 2 groups of Aspies*:
Those who can do math
Those who can't do math

Since I'm also ADHD, I have to wonder if the others who have similar characteristics have ADHD qualities or are diagnosed with it. But that could just be corellation and causation and all that good stuff, so if not, then one more wild theory for the trash.

*vague generality that does not necessarily represent actuality


So thats what that means, I guess I could of figured it out if I put the two parts together, and noticed that solipsistic was based on "Solipsism" . I think I've considered those, for, oh, a minute, before I decided that believing you were the only person is just evil if your wrong, which you are.



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11 Oct 2011, 2:04 am

I knew what solipsism was. Just didn't seem like a lot of that was going around. I haven't heard anything like it here...



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11 Oct 2011, 2:09 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
I knew what solipsism was. Just didn't seem like a lot of that was going around. I haven't heard anything like it here...


I have, there was a post a while back that said something like "Believing other people exist?" It is a common trend, but I don't think many people believe it past a certain age/maturity.

Ganondox: I don't personally believe this, but I have one statement for you. "Prove it."


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11 Oct 2011, 2:20 am

Fragmented wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
I knew what solipsism was. Just didn't seem like a lot of that was going around. I haven't heard anything like it here...


I have, there was a post a while back that said something like "Believing other people exist?" It is a common trend, but I don't think many people believe it past a certain age/maturity.

Ganondox: I don't personally believe this, but I have one statement for you. "Prove it."


I was debating on how to phrase that last point for a while, and I was going to go with "probably wrong" but then I realized that, from my perspective, with that wording, its impossible for your solipsism to be right.



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11 Oct 2011, 5:20 am

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I was debating on how to phrase that last point for a while, and I was going to go with "probably wrong" but then I realized that, from my perspective, with that wording, its impossible for your solipsism to be right.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Again, I do not believe in Solipism, it's craziness. But, you can't prove to me you exist, I totally know you do exist, but you can't definitively prove you exist. This could all be my dream and a result of subconcious, again, DO NOT BELIEVE, but, you can't disprove that as far as I'm aware.


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11 Oct 2011, 5:26 am

I don't have issues with eye contact.

I get humor.

I suck at math.

I get sarcasm (for the most part).

I mostly understand body language.

My voice is not monotone.

I have no obsessions.

I have an imagination.



Not sure what all the stereotypes are, so there's probably a lot more.



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11 Oct 2011, 8:37 am

-I like humor.
-I understand humor.
-I understand sarcasm quite well. (Though I didn't when I was younger, but I think that's just part of being a young child.)
-I don't constantly rock back and forth/flap/etc.
-I have... feelings. :o
-I'm not very good at math, though I love science.

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11 Oct 2011, 9:02 am

I don't have meltdowns or rigid routines. I'm not overtly clumsy. I'm good at reading people's emotions and facial expressions. I think that's pretty much it.



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11 Oct 2011, 11:45 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
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1. I am too depressed to get lost in any special intrests.
Or maybe I don't have AS and don't have special intrests.....I wonder what other disorders can start in early childhood cause I was screwed up since the moment I was born.

I have clinical depression as well, but I suppose my depression manifests itself as extreme apathy. I completely lack emotion and really couldn't care less about much of anything.


I wish that is what it would do to me....I hate having to feel it, I freaking missed class today because I felt so horrible.

I'm sorry to hear that. Have you tried taking medicine for it, and/or perhaps seeking out therapy?


Yeah I tried anti-depressants which made it worse and have tried therapy many times. Now I just need to figure out what to do about this whole college catastrophe I have gotten into and try and get approved for SSI....don't know what else to do, its not like I can go out and get a job at this point.

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12. I don't create solipsistic neologisms.


What?


Many autistics make up words that only they understand and then use them in regular conversation, expecting other people to know what they mean.


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11 Oct 2011, 11:57 am

Fragmented wrote:
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I was debating on how to phrase that last point for a while, and I was going to go with "probably wrong" but then I realized that, from my perspective, with that wording, its impossible for your solipsism to be right.


I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Again, I do not believe in Solipism, it's craziness. But, you can't prove to me you exist, I totally know you do exist, but you can't definitively prove you exist. This could all be my dream and a result of subconcious, again, DO NOT BELIEVE, but, you can't disprove that as far as I'm aware.


There are people I've interacted with in my dreams but they don't exist no matter how real they may seem. Have you seen the Matrix? How do you know other people or any of this is real?

Maybe everyone else is a computer generated npc in the matrix and I'm the only real one.

I don't think that but it's interesting to think about.



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11 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

Some stereotypes I don't display is rocking and hand flapping. I don't do and have never done those things. However after reading more about stimming I learned that lining things up and some other repetitive things I've done could be considered stimming.



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11 Oct 2011, 12:49 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
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According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals. Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?
I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?
The final one is definately pyschopathy. The rest are more stereotypes of psychopaths, but could be caused by a number of things.An aspie wouldn't torture animals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_triad

So my GP equates AS with psychopathy?

Time to change GPs, then...