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16 Feb 2012, 8:57 am

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NTs like socializing. The extroverted ones can be said to have "other people" as a special interest. That's practically the definition of extroversion. And of course they have interests that are weaker than proper special interests, but noticeable all the same.

They are different, sure, but that's okay. You have to let them be themselves. They're the glue that holds society together--the people making all those connections and doing all that social structuring. Without NTs, we'd be a bunch of solitary hunters, and any technology invented by the Aspie cave-men would've died with the cave-man who first figured it out. While it takes atypical people to innovate, it takes typical people to integrate those innovations into a society.

However boring it is to you--remember, your special interests are probably equally boring to them. Live and let live, I say.


I'm finding it very difficult to relate to your point.

Not only would your proposed "solitary hunter" world be better without them, but there's no reason to believe that society or the sharing of technology would cease to exist.

We're all on this site, aren't we?

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Nearly every NT male here in the UK are obsessed with Football(soccer) its all they want to talk about. Soon as somebody finds out which city your from they instantly start talking about your local team. If you say you dont like football they think your wierd or gay. There is even a saying around where i live "never trust a man who doesnt like football"


Well, I suppose that people as stupid as these do have to be careful about who they trust. I'd imagine that they are easily outwitted and mislead, so they have to try and stay on the alert, as best they can.



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16 Feb 2012, 9:33 am

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Come on now, people from all walks of life have a wide and colorful array of interests, whether or not they're on the spectrum. Do you really think every musician, poet, novelist or artist is an autistic? Every SCUBA diver, sky diver, or mountain climber? Every volcanologist? Entomologist? Marine biologist? You get the idea. There are way too many people on this planet for the majority to be sitting around all day gossiping or drinking beer. Most people are pretty interesting!


This is exactly what I mean.
8 of my cousins went to college to study something they like, and they're all NTs. One of my cousins took a 2-year computer course, and he is really into computers, now he has a job where he's building computers, and he's an NT. My NT friend is into horses, she owns a horse, and so does her best friend. My aunt's boyfriend's little girl has just turned 3 and loves My Little Ponys. She's got a whole collection of them, and is still collecting. As far as I know she is NT (and I don't judge children on whether they're NT or not just because they like collecting something). My brother is NT and is into films and comedy shows and has collected every series of a certain TV show that is brought out on DVD. My Grandfather collects buses because he's always been into buses. My uncle is into motorbikes and has 2 or 3 motorbikes in his garage and likes to do them up or whatever he does, sometimes he sells them. He knows everything about motorbikes.

If everybody was interested in the same thing, this world would be a VERY dull place and there wouldn't be anything to talk about because everyone would just be like zombies without no minds of their own.


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16 Feb 2012, 9:33 am

Invader wrote:

LongLostSelf wrote:
Nearly every NT male here in the UK are obsessed with Football(soccer) its all they want to talk about. Soon as somebody finds out which city your from they instantly start talking about your local team. If you say you dont like football they think your wierd or gay. There is even a saying around where i live "never trust a man who doesnt like football"


Well, I suppose that people as stupid as these do have to be careful about who they trust. I'd imagine that they are easily outwitted and mislead, so they have to try and stay on the alert, as best they can.


Very true. Its scary how many people ive met with that attitude "you arent a proper bloke if you dont like football" and will judge by it.
It was like that at school,in the pub ,work place, putting their extra gruff manliest voice on telling everybody that this player is s**t and that player is s**t repeating the same things day in day out. I physically cringe watching the sports news when they interview fans , you can guarantee they pick the thickest Newcastle fan to show on TV
Its funny because i got quite good at spotting people who dont actually know much about football they just copy what everyone elses is saying to fit in :roll:

rant over :)



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16 Feb 2012, 10:01 am

Invader wrote:

LongLostSelf wrote:
Nearly every NT male here in the UK are obsessed with Football(soccer) its all they want to talk about. Soon as somebody finds out which city your from they instantly start talking about your local team. If you say you dont like football they think your wierd or gay. There is even a saying around where i live "never trust a man who doesnt like football"


Well, I suppose that people as stupid as these do have to be careful about who they trust. I'd imagine that they are easily outwitted and mislead, so they have to try and stay on the alert, as best they can.


It's a jest when you call them on this, ( I have played with it and done it) but in reality there is many a' truth in a jest, as the saying goes. There really isn't overt fear here, but these folks get caught into this one dimension and believe they have an unsurpassed patented view or philosophy.

It's really myopic and mob scary and it's origin lies in testosterone. Good thing for the law. I'd hate to confront certain mindsets relative to a breakdown of law and order. :lol:

I wouldn't sell them short, as they can think on their own, but the crowd thinking engenders this.



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16 Feb 2012, 10:27 am

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It's actually a rhetorical question.

It means people with AS seem to think that NTs have no interests, when every NT I've met has an interest in at least something. A lot of men like cars, or football, or computers, and etc, and a lot of women like shopping, cooking, TV Soaps, and etc. If NTs had no interests then they must be very boring people who sit staring into space all day,


It's not so much that NT's don't have interests at all, more like they have more difficulty sticking to the interests.
I understand your frustration because I don't want an animosity between NT/Aspies, but one of the principal aspie traits is narrow obsessive interests.

**Saying that NT's have no interests is equally negative as saying Aspies have no need to socialize. Both are untrue :D



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16 Feb 2012, 12:14 pm

Having interests is normal, but again its the way aspies react to their interests that could be the difference. Autistics tend to get fixed on to a certain interest and get carried away with it, like talking about it non-stop to other people, drawing pictures of their interest, writing stories of their interest, possibly even decorate their room relating to their interest (my autistic brother has). Its also the way autistics think about their interests. So theres no need to say neurotypicals never have any interests, but its the way they deal with it which can be the difference.

I'm at college now taking a two year course on Design & Technology, because it interests me. One of my mates is doing Health & Beauty, because she really wants to be a hairdresser. When I was at school my favourite subject was math.

And I'm neurotypical.



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16 Feb 2012, 1:32 pm

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I think NTs have interests but they r always too mundane:
Sports
Their children
Gossip
Vulgarity
Their snowmobile
Their vacation at the dominican republic
A cake
and so on... they can talk for hours, but they r saying nothing.

This is just as harmful as saying that all aspies are interested in math science and computers.

I hear some horrible things about NTs on WP and it angers me. I don't know why some aspies view themselves as superior and more intelligent then NTs.


Maybe I should rephrase, the NTs here where I live, which is a redneck fishing town, have the interests I mentioned. I am sure that in bigger towns and cities, with a different demographic there are lots of very interesting NTs, that have a lot to offer to the world. Here where I am, most people r very crude and vulgar, uneducated and they are always high on something or other. It is quite sad actually.



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16 Feb 2012, 6:22 pm

So when people use the term NT, I guess they often are meaning 'hicks' in the US sense, 'chavs' in Britain, 'bogans' in NZ/Aus..



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16 Feb 2012, 6:27 pm

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So when people use the term NT, I guess they often are meaning 'hicks' in the US sense, 'chavs' in Britain, 'bogans' in NZ/Aus..


No, neurotypicals.

Supposedly "normal" people.



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16 Feb 2012, 6:56 pm

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16 Feb 2012, 8:18 pm

Seriously? this is actually a theory that's bandied around? Give me a break! :roll:


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16 Feb 2012, 10:07 pm

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So when people use the term NT, I guess they often are meaning 'hicks' in the US sense, 'chavs' in Britain, 'bogans' in NZ/Aus..

I think they use the word NT in place of simple minded,ignorant and conformist.
This is a large number of NTs but not even close to all of them.


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17 Feb 2012, 1:00 am

And I don't think that football fans are small minded and conformist [I'm not saying it at all because I have an unrealistic crush on one... :roll: ]


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17 Feb 2012, 4:41 am

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And I don't think that football fans are small minded and conformist [I'm not saying it at all because I have an unrealistic crush on one... :roll: ]


I'm not saying all football fans are that way, just a large portion , I suppose I'm referring to this " lad culture" we have in the UK really



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17 Feb 2012, 4:49 am

*nods*


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17 Feb 2012, 4:52 am

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*nods*


Lol , nods?